Nigel Aldain's Stats?


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Has Nigel Aldain, the curator of the Blakros Museum, ever been officially statted? I've found references to him being a Wizard, but I can't find anything else.

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No. You can attack things with Stat blocks.


Hulking Hurler wrote:
No. You can attack things with Stat blocks.

Well, yeah, but I wanted to know what he had access to; level, specializations, languages, spells, skills, ect.

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Hulking Hurler was making a joke there. Historically many people have played their characters as having a fairly antagonistic relationships toward Nigel Aldain. Mainly due to his propensity for begging Pathfinders for help and then throwing them into deadly situations.

Pretty sure there's not been any stats published for Nigel.

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Kevin Willis wrote:

Hulking Hurler was making a joke there. Historically many people have played their characters as having a fairly antagonistic relationships toward Nigel Aldain. Mainly due to his propensity for begging Pathfinders for help and then throwing them into deadly situations.

Pretty sure there's not been any stats published for Nigel.

I could have sworn there was a summarized block for him, but it was somewhere very obscure.

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You can start by figuring out how to make a character with an effective Wisdom of 1 within the rules...

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Davor Firetusk wrote:
You can start by figuring out how to make a character with an effective Wisdom of 1 within the rules...

Are you sure that's not all just an act?

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I feel like some are behind the times. :)

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I believe one of the later PF1 scenarios portrayed him as being adept at magic and wielding a rapier. The rapier could be from his racial background, though I wouldn't be surprised if he was a Magus of some kind.


My group and I have sort of retconned Nigel to be a "Rupert Giles" character who gives our scooby gang quests revolving around supernatural and eldritch mysteries. He still runs the Blackros Museum, and he still answers to the Blackros family, but he's less bumbling. He's also involved in an elven society dedicated to finding and reclaiming the aiudara keys.

Some minor tweaks to the character that's made him perfectly respectable.

That being said, I was hoping to have him a fully fleshed-out character with stats. I've read through almost all the Pathfinder Society Modules in which he's mentioned, but haven't found anything yet, so if anyone knows where I could find more info on him, I would be very appreciative.

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GMParty wrote:
Davor Firetusk wrote:
You can start by figuring out how to make a character with an effective Wisdom of 1 within the rules...
Are you sure that's not all just an act?

There's some growing consensus in our local group that Nigel is actually pretty darn competent at his job, and is simply doing the best he can with shamefully limited resources. He married into the Blakros family, but isn't in their good graces, so he doesn't get the support from them he needs. And really, who thought it was a good idea to store the bulk of the family's collection of highly suspect magical relics in a place originally built by an infamously insane mage? Certainly not his! It's no wonder that the museum is a hotbed for weird magical crises, or that Nigel gets so cranky when Pathfinders gleefully poke at stuff they don't understand.

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I've always asked 'Is the museum only as bad as it is because of Nigel? Or is the museum only as bad as it is because of Nigel?'

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My impression of Nigel is that "over ten years he has been written by so many different writers that you can't get consensus based on all scenarios, so you have to examine latest ones on what is current status of his competency" :D

(But seriously though, I think Nigel gets lot of undeserved flack)

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TOZ wrote:
I feel like some are behind the times. :)

I am aware of the recent fake news surrounding Nigel. My issue is that Nigel is the personification of every annoying frustratingly overly complex bureaucratic headache.

Waiting in line at the DMV, blame Nigel.

Filing taxes, some of Nigel's best work.

Just look what Nigel did to health care.

Knowing that Nigel is behind it all has saved many customer service representatives from raging outbursts. He's my blood pressure medication.

...And it's just like that pointy weasel to try and take it away from me with some BS redemption propaganda.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
I've always asked 'Is the museum only as bad as it is because of Nigel? Or is the museum only as bad as it is because of Nigel?'

Blackros Deception adds a new question to that list.

Is the museum only as bad as it is because of Nigel?

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I believe it's in PFS1 #9-05 Call of the Copper Gate that we get to see him in action. In true Nigel fashion he's using fireballs to kill some creature with serious fire resistance (but, impressively, succeeding).

Then again in PFS1 #6-02 The Silver Mount Collection you meat him strewn out on the lawn complaining of having been mortally wounded after taking a few points of damage.

I guess he's not really all adventurer material.

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Lau Bannenberg wrote:
Then again in PFS1 #6-02 The Silver Mount Collection you meet him strewn out on the lawn complaining of having been mortally wounded after taking a few points of damage.

So he's a wizard.

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Exactly.
Plus, he is an elf wizard, so a few hit point may be all he has!
CON8, level 9 wizard 5+3*9 = 32hp.

So, he could easily take himself out with his own fireball!

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Master of Spells Aram Zey wrote:

Exactly.

Plus, he is an elf wizard, so a few hit point may be all he has!
CON8, level 9 wizard 5+3*9 = 32hp.

So, he could easily take himself out with his own fireball!

That calculation seems off for both PF1 and PF2:

PF1:

(4-1)*8+(6-1) = 29 (without taking favored class into account)

PF2:

6 (Ancestry) + 9*(6-1) (class) = 51

I guess you counted level 1 twice for first edition? Seems like the most likely culprit here.
That would take his HP to an even more impressively low number, though.


TOZ wrote:
I feel like some are behind the times. :)

I'm not sure I get this reference. Can someone explain?

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The.Vortex wrote:
That calculation seems off...

Even Nigel has a rules lawyers. :-D

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Locksheon wrote:
TOZ wrote:
I feel like some are behind the times. :)
I'm not sure I get this reference. Can someone explain?

Find out next time on Pathfinder Society!

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The.Vortex wrote:
Master of Spells Aram Zey wrote:

Exactly.

Plus, he is an elf wizard, so a few hit point may be all he has!
CON8, level 9 wizard 5+3*9 = 32hp.

So, he could easily take himself out with his own fireball!

That calculation seems off for both PF1 and PF2:

PF1:

(4-1)*8+(6-1) = 29 (without taking favored class into account)

PF2:

6 (Ancestry) + 9*(6-1) (class) = 51

I guess you counted level 1 twice for first edition? Seems like the most likely culprit here.
That would take his HP to an even more impressively low number, though.

He is an NPC, he should have:

3.5*9-9 = 22 (you round down) hp

In fact, he could be someone's con 5 elf wizard challenge character.

3.5*9-27 = 4 (you round down) hp

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You may not be able to mechanically hurt Nigel, but you can still punch him in the face for flavor.

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Watery Soup wrote:
You may not be able to mechanically hurt Nigel, but you can still punch him in the face for flavor.

I wouldn't be surprised if my hand passed through a hologram.

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Nigel is rich enough that if you do manage to kill him it turns out to be a simulacrum and he just walks out from the next room disappointed in you.

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If Nigel doesn't have a stat block, then he might very well be a God incognito on Golarion.

My bet is on Aroden after he successfully faked his death.

:>

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Or he "lost" his stat block somewhere in the museum and needs you to go get it and refuses to give you any information and refuses to help and doesn't want anyone to find out so he doesn't get in trouble and wants you to pay to fix the stuff that attacked you and lies to your face when you discover he traded it for some magic beans.

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So, how do you really feel?

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Best table reaction to 6-02:
"Do we have to heal him?"
"I'm not wasting a charge off my wand for him."
"Neither am I."

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If he has no stats, he has infinite hit points.

which means he can't be killed.

which means.

yes.

Nigel is.

Elvis.

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