something we're all not focusing on.... the rest of guns & gears beyond the classes

[belgrath9344]

brand new to pathfinder2e & love the idea of guns black powder ect in my game but something I see no one talking about with the announcement of guns & gears. description from product page

Gear Up and Throw Down! When sword and spell just won't be enough to win the day, it's time to power up your game with clockwork gears, lightning coils, and black powder! Guns & Gears, the latest hardcover rulebook for the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (Second Edition), brings the excitement of firearms and fantasy technology to your tabletop! Unravel the secrets of clockworks with the new inventor class or blow away your opposition as a firearm-wielding gunslinger! In addition to new classes, a plethora of archetypes, backgrounds, vehicles, siege engines, gadgets, and the new automaton ancestry are all ready to expand your game with options for battlefields large and small.

Guns & Gears features:

Two new classes: the clever inventor and the sharpshooting gunslinger
Automaton ancestry for players who want to play a customizable construct
Firearms of all stripes, from the simple and effective flintlock pistol to versatile gunblades
Dozens of new archetypes
Scores of new gadgets and vehicles
Siege engines and accompanying rules
A gazetteer of Golarion revealing how firearms and technology fit into the Age of Lost Omens, including a look at the technology of the continents of Arcadia and Tian Xia and never-before-revealed secrets of the rough-and-tumble, gritty city of Alkenstar

we will have stuff like tesla coils !rules for siege engines (including black powder) with this & hopefully some slightly advanced weapons you could run a ww1 campaign (if u included kingdom management from kingmaker for 2e. ) or Renaissance or victorian era. but it now opens up sooo many campaign ideas . maybe they will include clockwork monster stats. everyone is focused on the classes i get that but the rest of the book seems to be chock full of awesome stuff that no one's talking about lets change that!

discuss!

[Milo v3]

I mean, this part of the forum is for the playtest. The product thread would likely be the more appropriate place to talk about the book itself.

[PossibleCabbage]

I can't playtest what I can't see or otherwise perceive.

[Ruzza]

As exciting as the new book is, this section of the forum is for testing out the new rules. You might be looking for this if you want general G&G chat.

[AnimatedPaper]

On a semi related note, I wish they'd fix whatever is preventing the threads in the Pathfinder Second Edition/Paizo Products subforum from being visible. THAT would be another great place to discuss the rest of the book.

Alas.

[Elfteiroh]

AnimatedPaper wrote:

On a semi related note, I wish they'd fix whatever is preventing the threads in the Pathfinder Second Edition/Paizo Products subforum from being visible. THAT would be another great place to discuss the rest of the book.

Alas.

Uh... They are visible to me? Weeeird.

[AnimatedPaper]

Are they now? Interesting. I just checked a different browser; same thing.

Are you looking in the correct subforum? There's a couple different subforums called Paizo products.

I mean this one: https://paizo.com/community/forums/pathfinder/second/products

I can see the beginner box threads, obviously, but I made a post earlier today outside that to see if it would pop up, and nada.

[Ashanderai]

AnimatedPaper, I am having the same issue as you. I use Firefox for my browser.

[AnimatedPaper]

I used Edge, Chrome, AVG Secure Browser, and Firefox, all same thing. I also went ahead and submitted a thread to the website feedback forum.

[Elfteiroh]

Aaaah, ok, yeah, usually I look at Product discussions, that's where all the threads for the different product pages go.

[Captain Morgan]

I think you might be having an issue I've had in the past-- the forum menus can be collapsed down. Look for arrows you can press.

[Ashanderai]

Captain Morgan wrote:

I think you might be having an issue I've had in the past-- the forum menus can be collapsed down. Look for arrows you can press.

No, that's not it. I clicked and unclicked those arrows and they only reveal the same, single thread and nothing else.

[Nik Gervae]

belgrath9344 wrote:

Two new classes: the clever inventor and the sharpshooting gunslinger

Automaton ancestry for players who want to play a customizable construct

So, I could play an automaton inventor who is his own innovation? :-D

[AnimatedPaper]

Captain Morgan wrote:

I think you might be having an issue I've had in the past-- the forum menus can be collapsed down. Look for arrows you can press.

No arrows; however, hitting the "Flatten" button did the trick.

[Castilliano]

Nik Gervae wrote:

belgrath9344 wrote:

Two new classes: the clever inventor and the sharpshooting gunslinger

Automaton ancestry for players who want to play a customizable construct

So, I could play an automaton inventor who is his own innovation? :-D

Or a Druid with a monkey that wears an outfit, maybe whatever equates to a lab coat on Golarion.

Or a little sparkly vest and a fez. Make yourself into a box-shape if allowed and take Perform (and Deception) for playing a tune while the monkey turns a (false?) crank. :)

[Invictus Novo]

Of course everybody is focused on the classes here...this is the PLAYTEST forum. We aren't playtesting siege engines and the like. It isn't that people don't want to talk about it, just that this isn't really the place for it and also that there is little to no information about these things yet.

I'm super glad your excited about the rest of the book. I am as well and I'm sure you can start a discussion elsewhere on the forums or in places like Reddit and maybe get some theory threads going.