Racial Heritage Vampire?

[Name Violation]

Can you take racial heritage for vampire?
they're undead with the augmented humanoid subtype. not 100% how those interact

[VoodistMonk]

Interesting question.

Does Vampire count as a race of humanoid, or are they still Dwarf/Elf/Human/whatever they were before becoming a vampire?

What about pure blood, natural born vampires? Are they still connected to their parents' original race(s)?

I think the word "Augmented" implies that you still have Dwarven vampires, or Elvish vampires... at which point, Racial Heritage would only get you the parent race, nothing to do with the vampire part.

[Java Man]

I think dhampir would be a valid humanoid to choose.

[Meirril]

Vampires only exist as a template. There is no 'pure blood' vampires in Pathfinder. That make sense with their Pathfinder origin (blessing from Urgothoa).

[vhok]

Vampires are undead not humanoid. Subtypes are not “type” which is what racial heritage cares about.

[Meirril]

vhok wrote:

Vampires are undead not humanoid. Subtypes are not “type” which is what racial heritage cares about.

Humanoid is a type. The different races (humans, elves, gnomes, halflings, dwarves, orcs, hobgoblins, ect) are subtypes. So yes, racial heritage does indeed care about subtypes.

It also means you can't choose sylph because its type is Outsider, not Humanoid, and its subtype would be native outsider. Which is silly since some native outsiders are the result of outsiders breeding with humans.

Vampires are not only undead, but they also add they key words Augmented and Undead to the creature's template. It doesn't remove the creatures type, and subtype if there is one (many creatures do not have subtypes).

[Dragonborn3]

Racial Heritage doesn't even care about subtypes. "Choose another humanoid race." No mention of type or subtype, though we all know it does mean a creature with the Humanoid type. You pick a kind, not a subtype, so things like Racial Heritage(Storm Giant) are possible.

[Name Violation]

Dragonborn3 wrote:

Racial Heritage doesn't even care about subtypes. "Choose another humanoid race." No mention of type or subtype, though we all know it does mean a creature with the Humanoid type. You pick a kind, not a subtype, so things like Racial Heritage(Storm Giant) are possible.

right, and with racial heritage storm giant you and take storm soul and storm warrior and become immune to electric damage and deal +1d6 electric damage

and there are vampire feats, that give shape change and im wondering the easiest way to qualify, without begging a gm to let me become a vampire (and probably npc in the process)