Xavram5 |
There seems to be a lot of ambiguity on the Prestige classes, regarding whether you just gain additional spells per day or all associated abilities regarding spell casting from your original class (do they stack?). Some Prestige classes spell it out very specifically, some it seems awfully vague.
A player is looking at the Stargazer PC and is wondering what stacks with his Cleric levels or not. Under spells per day it just says,
"+1 level of existing spellcasting class"
...but its clearly not all abilities of his original Cleric levels, because later on, when you pick a Sidereal Arcana, one option says...
The Mother: Whenever the stargazer casts a cure spell, casts breath of life, or uses the healing hex, he adds twice his class level to the hit points restored. If the stargazer is a cleric with channel positive energy, his stargazer levels stack with his cleric levels to determine its effects.
...so clearly channel wouldn't stack/increase unless you took this.
So how can you tell if its just "increase in spells per day"...or if its, "learn new spell levels as original class" or whatever?
Lelomenia |
The +1 to spellcasting class only affects the spelcasting feature of that class. there’s not really ambiguity anywhere. Channel energy, hexes, etc are not part of the spellcasting feature of those classes, and are not affected by the “+1 level of spellcasting class”. Also, the phrase “Class level” means “levels in this class/prestige class”, as opposed to the phrase “character level”, which is total levels in all classes. Class features stack between classes (and prestige classes) only if it explicitly says so.
LordKailas |
I'm trying to understand your question. But at the simplest level any time a prestige class advances your casting you gain everything you would normally gain in terms of caster level, spells known and spells per day. It does not however advance anything else.
So, if say you are a 4th level evocation specialist wizard and you take a level in a prestige class that advances your casting. You would gain access to 3rd level spells and spells per day same as if you had become a 5th level wizard. You would even get the extra 3rd level evocation spell slot. However, you would not get the 2 free spells known wizards normally get. So, while you can now cast 3rd level spells you would need to buy some scrolls or borrow a spell book in order to learn some 3rd level spells for you to be able to cast.
All prestige classes that increase your caster level work this way. Some prestige classes will restrict you to divine or arcane. So gaining a level in a prestige class that increases divine casting doesn't do anything for a wizard.
Additionally, some prestige classes will augment other existing class features and the prestige class will call this out when it happens (eg. Chernasardo Warden adds to your effective level for purposes of wildshape at every even level). But unless stated otherwise none of your other class abilities will advance.
Derklord |
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There seems to be a lot of ambiguity on the Prestige classes, regarding whether you just gain additional spells per day or all associated abilities regarding spell casting from your original class (do they stack?).
There is no ambiguity. "Prestige classes which advance spellcasting only advance caster level, spells per day, and (for spontaneous casters) spells known—essentially, the spellcasting features described in your class's Spells class feature description." Not domain spells, not spells automatically added to your spellbook, not anything except caster level, normal spells per day, and normal spells known.
Also...Stargazer says, "must whorship associated diety"...what diety is that?
It says "Deity: Must worship Pulura." You should generally use aonprd.com to look things up, as d20pfsrd.com often omits, changes, or adds text, without indicating it.
CivMaster |
There is no ambiguity. "Prestige classes which advance spellcasting only advance caster level, spells per day, and (for spontaneous casters) spells known—essentially, the spellcasting features described in your class's Spells class feature description." Not domain spells, not spells automatically added to your spellbook, not anything except caster level, normal spells per day, and normal spells known.
you do actually progress domain spells. the domain slots are granted by the lvl1 domain feature per spell level you can cast. the domain spells themselves are also not level restricted, so by gaining more spell level access, you gain more domain spell options and slots. the domain abilities though would not progress.
Ryze Kuja |
The +1 level of spellcasting class helps to further w/e class you choose for progressing your spellcasting. Like, you might have levels in Cleric and Bard, but you'd need to choose between the two classes as to which class gets furthered.
So, you don't gain class features of a Bard or a Cleric, such as performances or channel energy, but you WOULD gain spell progression as a Bard or Cleric, whichever class you choose to further.