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1) Seems so. Not sure what the reason for this was but I doubt it's a big deal.
2) There is actually one very specific gold dragon who is egregiously Lawful Evil in Golarion lore - his name is Mengkare and he assures you that his philosophy matches his color. On Golarion dragons aren't required to be their listed alignment any more than an orc is, so the alignment in their bestiary is what they "generally" are; there are no special mechanics of changing from metallic to chromatic in an alignment shift or anything.
The devs apparently confirmed that for the Ancient Red Dragon the Huge size is errata material (it's supposed to be Gargantuan). I think the post is on the PF2 Bestiary's product thread.
For the age category, I do think the 5E categorization of one type per size is practical (and would have liked to see gargantuan Ancients for all types). I definitely plan to make my own variants as such once the promised monster math is revealed...
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Mengkare is at least according to the wiki, and another source, Lawful Neutral. Kwislingyr (deceased) however was evil, though his scales were so tarnished that the dwarves who found his corpse, mistook him for a previously unknown form of yellow chromatic dragon.1) Seems so. Not sure what the reason for this was but I doubt it's a big deal.
2) There is actually one very specific gold dragon who is egregiously Lawful Evil in Golarion lore - his name is Mengkare and he assures you that his philosophy matches his color. On Golarion dragons aren't required to be their listed alignment any more than an orc is, so the alignment in their bestiary is what they "generally" are; there are no special mechanics of changing from metallic to chromatic in an alignment shift or anything.
Mengkare's alignment is something of a topic of debate - for my money I'd say the dude who's obsessed with creating the perfect mortal society and eats anyone who doesn't fit his image is pretty dang evil. It seems he's going to feature in Age of Ashes so we'll get further details on what exactly he's up to soon.
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Mengkare's alignment is something of a topic of debate - for my money I'd say the dude who's obsessed with creating the perfect mortal society and eats anyone who doesn't fit his image is pretty dang evil. It seems he's going to feature in Age of Ashes so we'll get further details on what exactly he's up to soon.Mengkare is at least according to the wiki, and another source, Lawful Neutral. Kwislingyr (deceased) however was evil, though his scales were so tarnished that the dwarves who found his corpse, mistook him for a previously unknown form of yellow chromatic dragon.1) Seems so. Not sure what the reason for this was but I doubt it's a big deal.
2) There is actually one very specific gold dragon who is egregiously Lawful Evil in Golarion lore - his name is Mengkare and he assures you that his philosophy matches his color. On Golarion dragons aren't required to be their listed alignment any more than an orc is, so the alignment in their bestiary is what they "generally" are; there are no special mechanics of changing from metallic to chromatic in an alignment shift or anything.
Age of Ashes reconfirms him as LN, though I tend to agree with your assessment.
I also came to add the Mengkare is confirm as lawful neutral and not evil, but he's really walking that tightrope.
Mengkare's alignment is something of a topic of debate - for my money I'd say the dude who's obsessed with creating the perfect mortal society and eats anyone who doesn't fit his image is pretty dang evil. It seems he's going to feature in Age of Ashes so we'll get further details on what exactly he's up to soon.Mengkare is at least according to the wiki, and another source, Lawful Neutral. Kwislingyr (deceased) however was evil, though his scales were so tarnished that the dwarves who found his corpse, mistook him for a previously unknown form of yellow chromatic dragon.1) Seems so. Not sure what the reason for this was but I doubt it's a big deal.
2) There is actually one very specific gold dragon who is egregiously Lawful Evil in Golarion lore - his name is Mengkare and he assures you that his philosophy matches his color. On Golarion dragons aren't required to be their listed alignment any more than an orc is, so the alignment in their bestiary is what they "generally" are; there are no special mechanics of changing from metallic to chromatic in an alignment shift or anything.
"Eats anyone who doesn't fit his image?" Is that official?
Paizo's definition of Lawful Neutral might be touch...loose?
Actually, it likely varies by who you talk to when and what story they're telling, much like Mengkare's alignment oscillating.
Ex. In Serpent's Skull there was a LN Aspis merchant who is a possible ally of the PCs. This is likely why Paizo chose not to make an Aspis agent evil. Story reasons. Except he's also willing to kill anybody who gets in the way of his business. Evil. Plain, selfish evil. And barely lawful depending on the greater context.
Hyper-lawful, funnily enough much like hyper-chaotic, often puts their ideology before people's welfare, ultimately leading to deliberate harm. IMO, that's evil, whether one labels it as "unfortunate" or "collateral" or whatnot.
It'd be kind of hilarious if all the blame lay on Mengkare's underlings who took this moral burden upon themselves for the greater "good". Trouble is, unless Mengkare's Sense Motive is flawed, even Glibness wouldn't get a lie past him. Now in PF2, with tighter reins on magical boosts, it'd be impossible. (I'm talking in the context of him having groomed his underlings, so perfectly aware of their skill development, and extra wary around any Masters of Deception.)
But as to the OP. In some versions of D&D/PF, dragons were tightly bound to their alignments, one notch below outsiders. Golarion doesn't limit many monsters. See: Goblin Awakening. (No, that's not its name.)
Doesn't seem like that is official. He's quick to use 'ends justify the means' and quick to have rather simplest reparations soothe his conscience, but haven't seen any sign of eating his failures. Quick to also 'what's done is done, moving on'. Feels very LN to me, but on the knife edge of tumbling off to LE.
Most Dragons don't get up to Colossal in size until they're reaching the age of a Great Wyrm.
"Eats anyone who doesn't fit his image?" Is that official?It is not, or at least not with any regularity. Canonically, people get exiled from Hermea, not killed, for the most part anyway.
And, from the Age of Ashes stuff, I definitely agree that he's an excellent LN villain.
Am I missing something, or don't the exiles actually get killed?
Ships razed to the water line and such.And wasn't there something about escaped residents being hunted down by elite teams? Or was that just my fanfic?
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There's literally a PF1 Trait for being a Hermean exile, which comes with no description of being hunted.
There've been in-universe rumors (they were printed in actual Paizo books, but as in-universe rumors) of the sorts of things you're talking about happening, but they verifiably didn't happen to anyone, and there was never any good evidence Mengkare was involved with any such incidents that did happen beyond the whole Dragon = Fire connection.
So...no, that was never standard policy.
There's literally a PF1 Trait for being a Hermean exile, which comes with no description of being hunted.
There've been in-universe rumors (they were printed in actual Paizo books, but as in-universe rumors) of the sorts of things you're talking about happening, but they verifiably didn't happen to anyone, and there was never any good evidence Mengkare was involved with any such incidents that did happen beyond the whole Dragon = Fire connection.
So...no, that was never standard policy.
Everyone knows that all in-universe rumors are true. Always. /s
And the goblin word for making friends is "Bree Yark!"I interpreted that as Paizo dropping hints more than anything else.
Some Hermeans (I think it was the young) do get to leave due to being inadequate. But I think those who leave w/o permission get hunted, though I cannot recall where I read that.
Isn't there even a mini-rebellion going on there?
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There are rumors of revolutionaries, and some people say the populace seem to have an undercurrent of fear. The official explanation for burned bodies sometimes showing up is 'pirates'.
And I believe the official stance is that people can leave as long as they aren't leaving with vital secrets or anything. They just then can't come back.
How much of these various things are true is sure to be revealed in Age of Ashes, but has always been quite ambiguous previously.
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There is Hermean Blood level 1 feat though that did come with implication that you might be hunted if GM decides so
Anyhoo, regardless of whether Mengkare really did set ships of exiles on fire or not(and for what reason), I'll think I only say one more spoilery thing about him