Is "Lighted" objects are intended to be immovable? RAW and RAI

[imposeren]

Target of light cantrip:
> 1 unattended, non-magical object of 1 Bulk or less.

And description fo "target" for spells says:
> If a creature starts as a valid target but ceases to be one during a spell’s duration, the spell typically ends, but the GM may decide otherwise in certain situations.

So what is intention here? Do authors want to make "lighted" objects not movable? Or this is simply an oversight?

[Xenocrat]

"If a creature starts as a valid target..."

Light doesn't target a creature.

I think the creature intent is to vaguely, subject to GM discretion, end the heated PF1 debates over whether "living target" spells ended when a PC died.

[imposeren]

So this rule about targets does not apply to "non-creature targets"? Then what if target "becomes a creature"?

For example (very synthetic but whatever): someone starts a ritual to make an animated object. In the middle of the ritual someone casts "light" on object. Will light end after object becomes animated?

Another stupid question:
> Duration: until the next time you make your daily preparations
Can we kill the caster to make "light" permanent? :)

[Apophenia]

imposeren wrote:

Another stupid question:

> Duration: until the next time you make your daily preparations
Can we kill the caster to make "light" permanent? :)

"If you are dead or otherwise incapacitated at the 24-hour mark after the time you Cast the Spell or the last time you extended its duration, the spell ends" - Page 305 under Long Durations.

I was actually a bit surprised this was covered by the rules but I did some searching and here it is.

[imposeren]

Apophenia wrote:

imposeren wrote:

Another stupid question:

> Duration: until the next time you make your daily preparations
Can we kill the caster to make "light" permanent? :)

"If you are dead or otherwise incapacitated at the 24-hour mark after the time you Cast the Spell or the last time you extended its duration, the spell ends" - Page 305 under Long Durations.

I was actually a bit surprised this was covered by the rules but I did some searching and here it is.

We still can put the caster into coma or keep him unable to make preparations for the rest of his life in some other way. Will this make light "permanent" while the caster is alive?

[Stone Dog]

A coma is easily "otherwise incapacitated."

[BishopMcQ]

So I have to get a Cleric to cast Light, then betray their deity or other Anathema criteria to lose their spellcasting. They're not dead or incapacitated.

Bit of a stretch just to avoid buying an Everburning torch.

[Saldiven]

imposeren wrote:

Apophenia wrote:

imposeren wrote:

Another stupid question:

> Duration: until the next time you make your daily preparations
Can we kill the caster to make "light" permanent? :)

"If you are dead or otherwise incapacitated at the 24-hour mark after the time you Cast the Spell or the last time you extended its duration, the spell ends" - Page 305 under Long Durations.

I was actually a bit surprised this was covered by the rules but I did some searching and here it is.

We still can put the caster into coma or keep him unable to make preparations for the rest of his life in some other way. Will this make light "permanent" while the caster is alive?

Go for it. That's an infinitely superior option to just having the wizard recast it the next day.