Wild Speculation About Preview Topics and Schedule


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


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So, as with many of you still lurking in the forums for a defunct playtest, I am also chomping at the bit and hungry for any morsel of information about 2nd edition.

I think it is fair to say that we are all expecting there to be preview blogs in our future (although not as close as I would like). So to try to stave off the hunger pangs I suggest, as the title states, that we speculate wildly about the preview topics and expected schedule.

I expect to start getting previews by late April at the latest. We know that there will be a lot of info dropped at Paizo Con memorial day weekend and I think they would like to at least start trickling some info out to us before then. I would also expect to get an announcement at Paizo Con about a street date for the Bestiary 2E.

As far as topics, I am unsure if the previews will mostly focus on 1E vs 2E or have a lot of Playtest Vs 2E.

Thoughts?


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j b 200 wrote:
As far as topics, I am unsure if the previews will mostly focus on 1E vs 2E or have a lot of Playtest Vs 2E.

I expect that most preview will focus more on 1e vs 2e, since there's a large chunk of their audience who didn't pay too much attention to the playtest.


rooneg wrote:
j b 200 wrote:
As far as topics, I am unsure if the previews will mostly focus on 1E vs 2E or have a lot of Playtest Vs 2E.
I expect that most preview will focus more on 1e vs 2e, since there's a large chunk of their audience who didn't pay too much attention to the playtest.

True. I mean just yesterday i saw someone complaining they had to pay for the 'pf playtest' book when the playtest was over so they should get the pf2e rulebook for free.


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rooneg wrote:
j b 200 wrote:
As far as topics, I am unsure if the previews will mostly focus on 1E vs 2E or have a lot of Playtest Vs 2E.
I expect that most preview will focus more on 1e vs 2e, since there's a large chunk of their audience who didn't pay too much attention to the playtest.

I expect hype-filled glimpses of cool new ideas, the style we saw in the previews of the playtest last year.

Focussing on the changes from the playtest to the final PF2 would require reminding people of the ideas that didn't work. Paizo will want a more enthusiastic message than that. However, they might share early the parts of PF2 that changed the most from the playtest to assure us playtesters that they changed the broken mechanics--and carefully avoid mentioning the failed playtest mechanics.

The first post on the new mechanics will probably be the three-action system, because most people loved that. Then they would cover a class, possibly the alchemist because Fumbus had his own Meet the Iconics article already. The second post on mechanics will probably be the proficiency system, because we playtesters will eagerly await the final version.


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I know we'll likely start getting lots of announcements and teaser previews in April (especially what with the 2e game starting on Apr 4th on Thursdays on Twitch).
But the sudden dead space in PF2 news is making me grouchy. I'm like those people that have their phone out, swiping for new Facebook stories, except I'm checking for Paizo blog posts and message board replies.
Ugh.

On a separate but related topic, does anyone know if my PF RPG subscription will keep going for the new edition?


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Barnabas Eckleworth III wrote:

I know we'll likely start getting lots of announcements and teaser previews in April (especially what with the 2e game starting on Apr 4th on Thursdays on Twitch).

But the sudden dead space in PF2 news is making me grouchy. I'm like those people that have their phone out, swiping for new Facebook stories, except I'm checking for Paizo blog posts and message board replies.
Ugh.

On a separate but related topic, does anyone know if my PF RPG subscription will keep going for the new edition?

I know the feeling bud.


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I would expect that your subscription will carry over as the AP subscription from 3.5 to pathfinder carried over seamlessly.

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Barnabas Eckleworth III wrote:
On a separate but related topic, does anyone know if my PF RPG subscription will keep going for the new edition?

I'm sure that Paizo wants that to be the case and I would be shocked if it weren't, but technically I don't believe anything official has been said yet beyond, "We still have things to work out about subscriptions."


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j b 200 wrote:
I would expect that your subscription will carry over as the AP subscription from 3.5 to pathfinder carried over seamlessly.

Well, except that the shift isn't going to be as seamless as it was between Legacy of Fire and Council of Thieves.

Personally, I think it would be a good idea to at least send out a wave of notifications asking people to confirm that they want subscriptions to continue. Simply continuing without asking would needlessly burn goodwill with people who don't want to follow them into PF2. (It might also cross the line into negative-option billing, which could mean legal problems as they sell in places that ban it.)

Better, IMHO, would be to create new subscriptions with the notifications being more: "These PF2 subscriptions are the equivalent of the PF1 subscriptions you have. Here's a quick way to subscribe to all of them...."


j b 200 wrote:
I would expect that your subscription will carry over as the AP subscription from 3.5 to pathfinder carried over seamlessly.

Check it out!


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Mathmuse wrote:
rooneg wrote:
j b 200 wrote:
As far as topics, I am unsure if the previews will mostly focus on 1E vs 2E or have a lot of Playtest Vs 2E.
I expect that most preview will focus more on 1e vs 2e, since there's a large chunk of their audience who didn't pay too much attention to the playtest.

I expect hype-filled glimpses of cool new ideas, the style we saw in the previews of the playtest last year.

Truthfully I don't want this. A lot of my problems with the playtest came from the transition from the hyped-but-unspecific previews and the mechanics of the playtest. It was a let down in a lot of cases. Barbarian rage, sorcerers in general are standouts amongst a great many things.

On the other hand, things I was worried about in the previews (skill feats and anathemas, for example) turned out to be me not worrying enough.

So I want technical previews, not hype previews.


I'd be happy if they covered at least the same topics that they covered in the playtest blogs. With classes, ancestries, and other system reveals, that seems to be between 40 and 50 previews. They are probably going to pack most of the good stuff a lot closer to launch though.

They are probably going to at least do preview for each core class. That is 12 of them, so if they do one core preview a week and those previews end just before launch then we should be seeing some meaty previews no later than early May.

There are a lot of potential topics though! If they cover roughly the same stuff as they did for the playtest before it started then they could cram three previews a week in and we could start seeing some solid stuff in mid-April.

Whatever they actually decide to do, I'm looking forward to seeing the cycle of previews start!

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