Paladin Deity Anathema


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I was planning on going with Desna as my deity for my paladin. Going as neutral good. There's 1 issue that came up that I am not quite sure about.

On page 288 it states the Desna anathema is "cause fear or despair, cast nightmare or use similar magic to corrupt dreams".

Since I have high charisma I was going to make full use of the intimidation/demoralize skills. Am I able to use these if I go with Desna or do I need to change my deity? Since intimidate causes fear.

I almost think it's better to go Desna and not use intimidate since it's not that great anyway but I have that high charisma and should try to make the most use out of it.

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Crexis wrote:

I was planning on going with Desna as my deity for my paladin. Going as neutral good. There's 1 issue that came up that I am not quite sure about.

On page 288 it states the Desna anathema is "cause fear or despair, cast nightmare or use similar magic to corrupt dreams".

Since I have high charisma I was going to make full use of the intimidation/demoralize skills. Am I able to use these if I go with Desna or do I need to change my deity? Since intimidate causes fear.

You need a new Deity if you want to be using Intimidate. Almost any other Deity allows that, but not Desna.

Crexis wrote:
I almost think it's better to go Desna and not use intimidate since it's not that great anyway but I have that high charisma and should try to make the most use out of it.

Diplomacy and Deception are both solid skills outside of combat if you want to make use of Charisma.


Intimidate in combat is actually really strong, but yeah, looks like that doesn't work with the Anathema. Especially since that supercedes anything else in your code that might warrant Demoralize. This is interesting, didn't know about it.


"cause fear or despair"

That's really broad.

Paladin kills a bunch of slavers. The last one runs away in fear. Paladin falls.

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deuxhero wrote:

"cause fear or despair"

That's really broad.

Paladin kills a bunch of slavers. The last one runs away in fear. Paladin falls.

Anathema have to be an act of volition, IMO, so you'd need to do it intentionally to trigger.

That said, a more precise wording is probably in order to avoid that interpretation.

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