Phantom Blade archer?


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Can a Phantom Blade's weapon be a bow or crossbow? If yes, would they need external ammunition?


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If you dig around for a while I think you can find where the writer gave some thoughts on his intended way phantom blade works. I would note that even if you can make a phantom bow spell strike and spell combat won't work, so you don't get much benefit.

Here, dig through this for a bit.

older thread on this topic

Shadow Lodge

I dug through the thread and found a link that lead to THIS post.

Luis Loza wrote:

The Phantom Blade has a lot to it, seeing as its entry is about as long as the bladebound magus entry. Here are some of the more exciting bits I wrote into the archetype:

1. You have no phantom at all, but have the phantom blade at 1st level. No waiting for 3rd level for your weapon.

2. The weapon is ectoplasmic, which means it is always a ghost touch weapon.

3. The weapon can be any weapon with which you are proficient. Are you an elf? Take an elven curved blade! Want a bow? Sure!

4. The ectoplasmic nature of the phantom blade means it's malleable. If you need to change damage types, you can eventually change the shape of your weapon to something better.


Also of particular note:

Luis Loza, Developer said wrote:

Just as a quick note, I went in intending two things with the phantom weapon:

1. You can choose any phantom weapon type you want so long as you are proficient with it, including two-handed weapons and ranged weapons.

2. The versatility comes at a cost. You can either go one-handed and use Spell Combat or you can go with other weapons that are not the "typical" magus fare.

I never intended for ranged spell combat and I'm sorry for any confusion the archetype is causing. Porting the black blade over takes a lot of rules and clarification and I feel now that my understanding of the archetype didn't come across as it needed to in the rules text.

I'd be happy to answer any questions on the archetype, but just keep in mind that my word is not law. Hopefully, I can clear some things up!


Nothing about whether you can create arrows as well as a bow though?


It gives you no option to create ammo so you'll need a quiver of arrows/bolts to make that work.


Arrows and other ammunition are not weapons, nor are they part of weapons. Casting various spells that create weapons none of them include ammunition in the same effect.


Ok, thanks!


I don't have my books right now, but... could you slap the endless ammunition enhancement, in the same manner you can enhance the Phantom Blade?


JiCi wrote:
I don't have my books right now, but... could you slap the endless ammunition enhancement, in the same manner you can enhance the Phantom Blade?

Endless Ammunition isn't among the abilities that a Phantom Blade, or a Bladebound Magus could select. Since the Phantom Blade works just like a Bladebound's Black Blade and there is a FAQ answer that says you can't enchant the Black Blade, the answer is a resounding no.

Bladebound Archetype for refrence.

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