That race is fine in terms of balance, but is not allowed in organized play.
I like the 3pp version of the Half Ogre but I wish Paizo would give us an official half ogre PC race on their own.
I have a "quarter ogre" race in my homebrew that we use as PCs. They were bred as shock troops by a race that once conquered much of my old campaign setting.
I like the 3pp version of the Half Ogre but I wish Paizo would give us an official half ogre PC race on their own.
Any particular need to?
While the creatures themselves have their own niches, I always kind of thought that half ogre and half orc basically filled the same general niche as far as crossbreeds go.
When you are doing a half-whatever, the compelling flavor comes from the circumstances that lead to their creation and how they are treated.
I feel like more outsider blood lines would be a better use of the space- Ganzi shows that there are places you can take this (note- that is the chaotic version for the tiefling/aasimar thing...and instead of being a crossbreed, they are born spontaneously to normal humanoid parents when they are exposed to chaotic energies over generations).
I would like to see them do their own warforged because someone decided to try to copy the design of the inevitables (cause honestly...I can't see the lawful outsiders being all keen on this whole 'random crossbreeding' thing... so making it 'a wizard did it' would be more likely).
I like the 3pp version of the Half Ogre but I wish Paizo would give us an official half ogre PC race on their own.Any particular need to?
While the creatures themselves have their own niches, I always kind of thought that half ogre and half orc basically filled the same general niche as far as crossbreeds go.
When you are doing a half-whatever, the compelling flavor comes from the circumstances that lead to their creation and how they are treated.
I feel like more outsider blood lines would be a better use of the space- Ganzi shows that there are places you can take this (note- that is the chaotic version for the tiefling/aasimar thing...and instead of being a crossbreed, they are born spontaneously to normal humanoid parents when they are exposed to chaotic energies over generations).
I would like to see them do their own warforged because someone decided to try to copy the design of the inevitables (cause honestly...I can't see the lawful outsiders being all keen on this whole 'random crossbreeding' thing... so making it 'a wizard did it' would be more likely).
Half ogres let you play as an ogre which otherwise is pretty impossible to do. Same way that a half orc lets you play an orc which otherwise would be hard to do. Ogres with some cunning to them are always dangerous foes and make for good characters, either good or bad.
I'm a fan of the Ogre Kingdoms from Warhammer (the real Warhammer not Age of Sigmar) and those were not just the drooling idiots you see from typical ogres. A half ogre race would give you the player some intelligence and thought into them.
Half ogres let you play as an ogre which otherwise is pretty impossible to do. Same way that a half orc lets you play an orc which otherwise would be hard to do. Ogres with some cunning to them are always dangerous foes and make for good characters, either good or bad.
I'm a fan of the Ogre Kingdoms from Warhammer (the real Warhammer not Age of Sigmar) and those were not just the drooling idiots you see from typical ogres. A half ogre race would give you the player some intelligence and thought into them.
Yes, but what IS an ogre, at least for your purposes?
Big murderous guy with muscles? Maybe inbred and frothing? Maybe a low cunning?
Can you do not this with orcs? What qualities are you looking for in ogres specifically that isn't a mechanical one like "they are large sized"?
Now goblins- those have a nice niche that is hard to crowd- they tend to go with a mix of funny, pathetic, and frustratingly clever at times. But what differentiates your ogre from a particularly big orc thematically?
Half ogres let you play as an ogre which otherwise is pretty impossible to do. Same way that a half orc lets you play an orc which otherwise would be hard to do. Ogres with some cunning to them are always dangerous foes and make for good characters, either good or bad.
I'm a fan of the Ogre Kingdoms from Warhammer (the real Warhammer not Age of Sigmar) and those were not just the drooling idiots you see from typical ogres. A half ogre race would give you the player some intelligence and thought into them.
Yes, but what IS an ogre, at least for your purposes?
Big murderous guy with muscles? Maybe inbred and frothing? Maybe a low cunning?
Can you do not this with orcs? What qualities are you looking for in ogres specifically that isn't a mechanical one like "they are large sized"?
Now goblins- those have a nice niche that is hard to crowd- they tend to go with a mix of funny, pathetic, and frustratingly clever at times. But what differentiates your ogre from a particularly big orc thematically?
For myself? As I said before being a fan of Ogre Kingdoms and having a well described culture of a large, violent race with not the best intelligence but enough cunning to be scary is what made me an Ogre fan. I want to have the chance to bring that to life in Paizo's worlds through the half ogre. An orc is simply not big enough, violent enough or capable of the "gentle giant" moments you can see from true Ogres when they actually show some acts of kindness.
Imagine Andre the Giant's character from Princess Bride but he likes to eat or at least casually the arms off the occasional person or two. That's the "niche" as you described it from the goblins that you can't really get from another race. Half ogres would fill that role.