All I am seeing a monk lose for being in armor is their AC bonus from Wisdom, and additional speed. Am I missing something? If you don't care about the speed, and wisdom isn't super high, wouldnt it be better to just wear armor? I am making a greatsword flurrying monk, and wondering if i should slap some armor on him or not...
Or you could go Brawler, but i guess thats not quite what you are after either?
Sohei monk can flurry while wearing light armor (or mithral medium armor).
I am taking crusaders flurry with a level cleric to flurry with a greatsword. Ah under their armor proficiency it says they lose flurry, it does not say that under the actual flurry rules... thats a dumb placement.... but ok, so yea, no armor then. Thanks, KI was fairly certain there had to be something quite significant.
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I am taking crusaders flurry with a level cleric to flurry with a greatsword. Ah under their armor proficiency it says they lose flurry, it does not say that under the actual flurry rules... thats a dumb placement.... but ok, so yea, no armor then. Thanks, KI was fairly certain there had to be something quite significant.
Sohei monk starts with full martial proficiency and can flurry with any fighter weapon group with which it has Weapon Training. It can do this while wearing armor.
Polearms are an available group for weapon training and includes the nodachi.
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It's also worth noting that, if you've got a decent WIS score, a Wand of Mage Armor + WIS will be just as much AC as if you were wearing a +1 Breastplate, which is cool if you want to go Unchained or just don't want Sohei.
Personally, for Crusader's Flurry builds, I really like Divine Commander Warpriest 4/Sohei Monk 1.
The 4 levels of Warpriest get you:
And then with the level of Sohei you take Mounted Skirmisher as your bonus feat, which will allow you to Flurry any time your mount doesn't move more than its speed (eg. any time it doesn't double move).
Suddenly you're pouncing with a Greatsword every round! In addition to your mount getting to attack.
It's also worth noting that, if you've got a decent WIS score, a Wand of Mage Armor + WIS will be just as much AC as if you were wearing a +1 Breastplate, which is cool if you want to go Unchained or just don't want Sohei.
Personally, for Crusader's Flurry builds, I really like Divine Commander Warpriest 4/Sohei Monk 1.
The 4 levels of Warpriest get you:
Mount
Weapon Focus
Bonus teamwork feat
Fervor!!!
Spells
Channel Energy
Sacred Weapon And then with the level of Sohei you take Mounted Skirmisher as your bonus feat, which will allow you to Flurry any time your mount doesn't move more than its speed (eg. any time it doesn't double move).
Suddenly you're pouncing with a Greatsword every round! In addition to your mount getting to attack.
This is neat.
It is an unchained monk I am using,so full strength 1.5 bonus, plus easier to enchant the weapon, but no so much dipping, as planning on going almost entirely monk, with one level of cleric for the deity favored weapon. I bumped wis to a 14, and I will probably have to use mage armor instead, since flurrying was the primary function. As for third party, this is a PFS character so can't do that.
As for sohei they dont get the weapon training until level 6, at that point almost half the career of the adventurer is over, so i dont think thats worth it for my character. Unless i am horrible misunderstanding something. It doesnt turn their martial weapons into monk weapons, it just lets them have proficiency with them. That is not the same thing, unless there is an errata out there somewhere, i dont think that would be pfs legit until level 6, and choosing the weapon training weapon to flurry with.
It is an unchained monk I am using,so full strength 1.5 bonus, plus easier to enchant the weapon, but no so much dipping, as planning on going almost entirely monk, with one level of cleric for the deity favored weapon. I bumped wis to a 14, and I will probably have to use mage armor instead, since flurrying was the primary function. As for third party, this is a PFS character so can't do that.
As for sohei they dont get the weapon training until level 6, at that point almost half the career of the adventurer is over, so i dont think thats worth it for my character. Unless i am horrible misunderstanding something. It doesnt turn their martial weapons into monk weapons, it just lets them have proficiency with them. That is not the same thing, unless there is an errata out there somewhere, i dont think that would be pfs legit until level 6, and choosing the weapon training weapon to flurry with.
Also unchained can't be sohei's so that's another reason for it to not work.
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It is an unchained monk I am using,so full strength 1.5 bonus, plus easier to enchant the weapon, but no so much dipping, as planning on going almost entirely monk, with one level of cleric for the deity favored weapon. I bumped wis to a 14, and I will probably have to use mage armor instead, since flurrying was the primary function. As for third party, this is a PFS character so can't do that.
As for sohei they dont get the weapon training until level 6, at that point almost half the career of the adventurer is over, so i dont think thats worth it for my character. Unless i am horrible misunderstanding something. It doesnt turn their martial weapons into monk weapons, it just lets them have proficiency with them. That is not the same thing, unless there is an errata out there somewhere, i dont think that would be pfs legit until level 6, and choosing the weapon training weapon to flurry with.
Well, if this is your plan, make sure your Cleric dip is Crusader Cleric, so that you get free Weapon Focus.
That said, as has been pointed out here above, the monk unarmed damage will catch up to the Greatsword damage. Monk 7 wearing Monk's Robes has 2d6 unarmed strikes. And you can take the Dragon Style line to get 2*STR and 1.5* STR on your unarmed attacks. And then you're not worrying about the fact that you have to mix and match between unarmed strikes and weapon attacks.
