Magus Bladebound Hexcrafter Please give me advice

[JuliusCromwell]

I've been working on a spellslinger Eldrtich archer for a game I've play in for over a month but I've chosen to use him as a Npc in the game i GM so I've switched to a another magus Build

I need advice For a BladeBound Hexcrafter

I will start At level Seven with a twenty point Buy for stats

My Main Goal with this character is to Debuff through curses and Deal Decent Damage.

I need Advice on weapon My Black Blade what would be a good one for a cursed swordsmen

advice on Arcana and Advice on my feats

over all i need advice on the whole build

[Chess Pwn]

First bit of advice is that these two archetypes don't legally stack, so make sure it's okay with your GM.

first for a magus you need to decide on if you're going str based (two handing or one handing) or dex based (and if you're doing dervish or not). this will largely affect all aspects of the advice you get.

[avr]

If you want to use any weapon other than a scimitar and you want decent damage, you're going to be strength-based on the attack. Assuming so (& that you won't be using damaging spells with spellstrike), then a longsword would work well.

I don't know what race you're considering. An elf might have abilities like Str 16, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 7.

For arcana you get the 6th level one and could potentially get another via extra arcana at 7th. You get one hex and can replace magus arcana with hexes. Given that I might choose options like these:

1: Combat casting (retrain this later)
3: Power attack
Hex@4:Flight
5: Blighted critical
Magus bonus 5: Furious focus
Arcana@6: Arcane accuracy
7: Extra arcana (slumber)

[Nymor]

Chess Pwn wrote:

First bit of advice is that these two archetypes don't legally stack

Yes they do. There's nothing changed by both.

[JuliusCromwell]

avr wrote:

If you want to use any weapon other than a scimitar and you want decent damage, you're going to be strength-based on the attack. Assuming so (& that you won't be using damaging spells with spellstrike), then a longsword would work well.

I don't know what race you're considering. An elf might have abilities like Str 16, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 7.

For arcana you get the 6th level one and could potentially get another via extra arcana at 7th. You get one hex and can replace magus arcana with hexes. Given that I might choose options like these:

1: Combat casting (retrain this later)
3: Power attack
Hex@4:Flight
5: Blighted critical
Magus bonus 5: Furious focus
Arcana@6: Arcane accuracy
7: Extra arcana (slumber)

ok I can't find the blighted critical feat on the app im using guess its Note pad and time to vist the Srd.

question could you give me some spell advice?

[Jurassic Pratt]

Nymor wrote:

Chess Pwn wrote:

First bit of advice is that these two archetypes don't legally stack

Yes they do. There's nothing changed by both.

ChessPwn is actually right. Both archetypes alter Magus Arcana even though Hexcrafter doesn't explicitly say it. Blade Bound replaces the arcana gained at 3rd level and Hexcrafter adds a new Arcana to the list of ones you can take while also allowing you to take hexes in place of them.

[avr]

Blighted critical.

You get all curse spells of 6th level or lower added to your spell list. Most of these aren't touch attack spells which makes them less valuable to you (you won't use spellstrike to deliver those, at least until you get the accursed strike arcana), but there's a few to note.

Brand is a cantrip; it may do 1 point of damage, which makes it marginally better than arcane mark for getting an extra attack. (A magus can use spell combat and spell combat, and the free attack that you get to deliver any touch range spell, to get two attacks in a round.)

Irregular size is a pretty crippling debuff to anyone using weapons in combat. It's not on your spell list so you can get it added to your list as the lowest level version - medium, level 2.

Bestow curse is of course your favourite curse debuff.

Besides those you're going to want defensive spells (shield, mirror image), mobility spells (bladed dash, maybe expeditious retreat or haste) and utility spells (various, depending on what you want to do).

[JuliusCromwell]

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Nymor wrote:

Chess Pwn wrote:

First bit of advice is that these two archetypes don't legally stack

Yes they do. There's nothing changed by both.

ChessPwn is actually right. Both archetypes alter Magus Arcana even though Hexcrafter doesn't explicitly say it. Blade Bound replaces the arcana gained at 3rd level and Hexcrafter adds a new Arcana to the list of ones you can take while also allowing you to take hexes in place of them.

its fine my Gm is ok with it cause for once i'm trying to build for flavor and roleplay and not Mid/maxing ^^

[Nymor]

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Nymor wrote:

Chess Pwn wrote:

First bit of advice is that these two archetypes don't legally stack

Yes they do. There's nothing changed by both.

ChessPwn is actually right. Both archetypes alter Magus Arcana even though Hexcrafter doesn't explicitly say it. Blade Bound replaces the arcana gained at 3rd level and Hexcrafter adds a new Arcana to the list of ones you can take while also allowing you to take hexes in place of them.

Hex Arcana does not modify nor replace Magus Arcana. It's simply another feature giving you broader OPTIONS that you are not compelled to use on a specified level.

"All other class features of the base class that aren’t mentioned among the alternate class features remain unchanged and are acquired normally when the character reaches the appropriate level, unless noted otherwise." and magus arcana is never mentioned as modified.

From the rules on archetype stacking faqed on qinggong monk but valid for any archetype about optional trades:
"Can a qinggong monk take a second archetype if the character doesn’t swap out abilities the second archetype requires?

Yes. However, the other archetype takes priority over the various abilities granted at each level, and the character can’t delay taking an ability that the other archetype replaces—he must allow the second archetype to replace the standard ability at the standard class level."

[Jurassic Pratt]

Nymor wrote:

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Nymor wrote:

Chess Pwn wrote:

First bit of advice is that these two archetypes don't legally stack

Yes they do. There's nothing changed by both.

ChessPwn is actually right. Both archetypes alter Magus Arcana even though Hexcrafter doesn't explicitly say it. Blade Bound replaces the arcana gained at 3rd level and Hexcrafter adds a new Arcana to the list of ones you can take while also allowing you to take hexes in place of them.

Hex Arcana does not modify nor replace Magus Arcana. It's simply another feature giving you broader OPTIONS that you are not compelled to use on a specified level.

"All other class features of the base class that aren’t mentioned among the alternate class features remain unchanged and are acquired normally when the character reaches the appropriate level, unless noted otherwise." and magus arcana is never mentioned as modified.

From the rules on archetype stacking faqed on qinggong monk but valid for any archetype about optional trades:
"Can a qinggong monk take a second archetype if the character doesn’t swap out abilities the second archetype requires?

Yes. However, the other archetype takes priority over the various abilities granted at each level, and the character can’t delay taking an ability that the other archetype replaces—he must allow the second archetype to replace the standard ability at the standard class level."

The archetype stacking faq says that something as simple as adding 1 round of bardic performance or adding a single feat to a list of bonus feats counts as altering the entire class feature.

So yeah, letting you choose hexes in place of arcanas and adding a new arcana to that list counts as altering arcanas.

Qingong isn't good eveidence considering it needed it's entire own FAQ just to say that it worked which addressed only it specifically.