Clone vs Soul Bind

[Altair79]

A NPC character have cast clone as a life insurance. After a battle a PC cast soul bind to avoid resurrection and so on. To block clone must be launched at the same time as death happen or will it work even afterwards

[Gark the Goblin]

Soul bind wrote:

The soul, once trapped in the gem, cannot be returned through clone, raise dead, reincarnation, resurrection, true resurrection, or even a miracle or a wish.

If the PC managed to trap the soul in the time frame indicated, the clone should not animate. If you really need this NPC alive there is some leeway with the text of the clone spell saying "the soul immediately transfers," but I think the specific text of soul bind overrides that. If you follow the text of the clone spell only, it's actually impossible to soul bind a dead enemy who has a clone, which would contradict the soul bind spell's purpose.

[quirthanon]

Clone can be used after a creature dies. For this case I think Soul Bind would prevent it.

Clone can also be used before the creature dies. In this case I think the immediate nature on Clone wins and Soul Bind would have no effect.

[Scrapper]

May option for a Opposed spell caster check (Level + Ability + 1d20) vs (Level + Ability + 1d20)

[Claxon]

I would rule that if the clone already exists of the individual in question, the only way the soul bind could work is if you use a readied action with the condition of "when the character dies".

Otherwise, the character dies and the soul immediately migrates to the clone body. It doesn't stick around to be able to be trapped by Soul Bind.

[blahpers]

Claxon wrote:

I would rule that if the clone already exists of the individual in question, the only way the soul bind could work is if you use a readied action with the condition of "when the character dies".

Otherwise, the character dies and the soul immediately migrates to the clone body. It doesn't stick around to be able to be trapped by Soul Bind.

This is the only way I can see to reconcile the two entries.