Which Potions can Bokken the Hermit create?


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A few months ago, when starting Kingmaker, my GM was surprised that his book did not list which potions Bokken could create.

Today I noticed two different threads in the Pathfinder Rules forum that hinted perhaps characters with the Brew Potion feat can create potions of spells they do not know with a +5 "skip a prerequisite" DC penalty, as long as they met the caster level requirement (because of the second paragraph of caster level on 460 "For potions...the creator can set the caster level of an item at any number high enough to cast the stored spell but not higher than her own caster level.").

So does Bokken not have a list of potions because no potion-brewer really does?

Was this issue ever resolved by a Paizo official?

UPDATE: To clarify, if a potion-brewer can indeed make a potion of a spell he or she does not know, does that +5 DC mean a friend is casting the spell into the potion or that no spell at all is needed because Purple Diabungi Berries prepared properly have the same effect as the magical spell energy?


I think you'll find the Adept spell list in the GMG.

Bokken can make anything on the list up to level 2.


Page 449 in the Core Rule Book, or HERE in the Pathfinder PRD.

-- david
Papa.DRB

stuart haffenden wrote:

I think you'll find the Adept spell list in the GMG.

Bokken can make anything on the list up to level 2.


I don't think that there is a good idea to start an item creation flame war here.
But i can tell you that with potions (as spell-trigger items) you cannot take the +5 to the DC to skip the spell. Also the +5 is for you not having the spell at all. If you have scrolls or a buddy (or someway) to provide the spell you can create the potion (or the item).
Also iirc the adept spell list is also located somewhere in the core.


Skipping the rules aspect of it entirely, I would say the DM should have Bokken be able to make any potions he thinks the PCs need. Perhaps not everything they "want" or at least not in the quantities they might want them. Since he is unlikely to ever enter combat and really functions only as a quest generator and source of low level magical assistance, I don't think it is necessary to have Bokken's stats, spells and "potion list" fully defined. If the PCs insist on Bokken telling them exactly what his capabilities are, I would have him be resistant and perhaps resentful of the pressure. After all, he is a cantankerous old hermit, and supplying a few fangberries isn't going to change his basic personality.

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