Races to boost the ride skill?


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Other then the Halfling outrider, or human and burning a feat for skill focus ride, any other races that have bonus to ride, either via alternate or regular, that are PFS legal?


Goblins get a +4 to it.


pulseoptional wrote:
Goblins get a +4 to it.

sadly not PFS legal without that near extinct boon.


I overlooked that aspect of it. It may have also been a subconscious ignoring of it.

Silver Crusade

Half-Elves get skill focus off the bat, so they work.


It's kind of burning a feat, but you could do a human with an alternate racial trait. Can't think of the name but it trades your racial free feat for 3 skill focuses (one at level 1, 8, and 16?). Your first goes into riding...


Ok could be interesting. Heres another link to my other post so you can see why iam asking...

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u2fz?Cross-classing-for-a-flying-mount#3

iwas toying with the half elf, maybe at the level 2 reboot, so i can afford muleback coords.


trying to make a dire batriding hunter lance charger similar to acavalier, but with aflying mount...


Keep in mind, you really only need to be able to reliably hit a DC 15 in your ride skill.

At level 1, with 1 skill rank you will have a +4. With a dex of just 12 you will have a total of +5. Avoid armor with a high ACP. The first couple of levels it might be a bit difficult. If you were making an archer you wouldn't need to worry at all because between dex and class skill bonus you would have a high chance of always making it.

Personally, I don't think investing your race into the ride skill is wise.

I would maybe spend a feat on skill focus and then retrain it as I level up.


For using the Ride skill to control your mount, you don't need a huge amount.

For using Mounted Combat to negate hits to your mount, you want your Ride skill maxed to the extreme, because you need to be able to match other people's to-hit rolls.

Note that Ride is affected by armor check penalties, so in some cases you can (effectvely) increase your Ride skill by reducing or negating ACP. Not sure if any races have that ability, though.

Liberty's Edge

Claxon wrote:
Keep in mind, you really only need to be able to reliably hit a DC 15 in your ride skill.

Unless you want to use the Mounted Combat, Trick Riding, and/or Indomitable Mount feats to protect the mount.

Some non feat burning options;

Valiant Steed - This feat is taken by the mount and gives a morale bonus on ride checks.

There are about a dozen traits which grant a bonus to ride checks.

Equestrian Belt, Horsemaster's Saddle, Burrower's Bridle, and Turquoise Sphere Ioun Stone all grant a competence bonus to ride checks.


tonyz wrote:

For using the Ride skill to control your mount, you don't need a huge amount.

For using Mounted Combat to negate hits to your mount, you want your Ride skill maxed to the extreme, because you need to be able to match other people's to-hit rolls.

Note that Ride is affected by armor check penalties, so in some cases you can (effectvely) increase your Ride skill by reducing or negating ACP. Not sure if any races have that ability, though.

precisely this, if i am going to be using a riding mount, and often using the cover option, enemy archers and such will most likely attack my mount, i need to be able to negate those hits, as for ACP, I already have that reduced as much as possible for my level. With my current idea, i am at +14 ride at level 2 if i were to play it. Halfling riding a dire bat animal companion with a lance.

never heard of valiant steed, will look into that.

I also like the idea of reliably making swift mount/dismounts as the need arises.

Liberty's Edge

Evilserran wrote:

never heard of valiant steed, will look into that.

It is in Animal Archive and listed as approved on the additional resources document.

Valiant Steed


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I like it, seems like a sweet riding feat imo. Thanks for bringing it to my attention :)


Evilserran wrote:
pulseoptional wrote:
Goblins get a +4 to it.
sadly not PFS legal without that near extinct boon.

Would it also be illegal to take their racial trait via the Adopted trait?


FinnMacCool wrote:
Evilserran wrote:
pulseoptional wrote:
Goblins get a +4 to it.
sadly not PFS legal without that near extinct boon.
Would it also be illegal to take their racial trait via the Adopted trait?

It seems as if you're misunderstanding what the character trait Adopted actually does. It's a pretty common mistake since there's confusingly similar terminology being used with Racial Traits and Race Traits.

I'm thinking of using this answer as a copy-paste alternative for all the times this particular question about Adopted comes up. Please let me know if anything is confusing and what could be done to make it easier to understand.

Spoiler:
Quote:
Can I take a Racial Trait from my adopted parent's race with the Social Character Trait "Adopted"? Like, could I get the human's Bonus Feat as a Goblin if I was adopted by humans?

No.

And here's why.

At character creation you pick:

*Ability scores

*Race

*Class

*Traits

Now all races have something called Racial Traits, like the human's "Bonus Feat" and "Skilled". You can replace your standard Racial Traits for Alternate Racial Traits. There is no limitation on how many Alternate Racial Traits you can take for your character, except that you will sooner or later run out of standard Racial Traits to trade.

Adopted is a Trait, which is not the same as a Racial Trait. You can normally only take two Traits, and only one Trait from one of the many categories there exists.

Types of Traits:

Campaign
Combat
Equipment
Faith
Magic
Race
Regional
Religion
Social

Traits: Social: Adopted wrote:

You were adopted and raised by someone not of your race, and raised in a society not your own.

Benefit: As a result, you picked up a race trait from your adoptive parents and society, and may immediately select a race trait from your adoptive parents' race.

Adopted is a Trait in the 'Social' category, which lets you take a Trait from the 'Race' category.

Adopted does not allow you to select a Racial Trait from your adopted parent's race.


Ah, thank you.
I think there would be less confusion if the PRD also listed the race traits as part of the race descriptions and not just the racial traits.


I feel it should be pointed out that Valiant Steed only works against against a specific monster rule, that +4 is not likely to come up outside of... dragons? in my experience unnatural aura is rather uncommon.

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