Building a Manuever Master

[Kerney]

Not the Monk archetype, but in general, particularly trip and dirty trick. Am thinking either Brawler or Lore Warden fighter. Would prefer a dex build but I think it costs too much in feats. Race, human or half elf but will look at others.

Looking at 20 pt buy.
For Brawler

Str 18 (10 pts+2)
Dex 14 (5pts)
Con 14 (5pts)
Int 10
Wis 12 (for the weak will save)
Cha 8

Feats 1)Dirty fighting, Improved dirty trick 2)Kitsume style 3)Kitsume tricks 5) Combat reflexes 6) Kitsume Vengeance or Greater dirty trick 7) the other

Or

Str 12
Dex 19 (13 pts+2, 4th level increase)
Con 15 (7 pts, 8th Level)
Int 10
Wis 12
Cha 7

Feats 1)Dirty fighting, Agile, 2) Improved dirty trick 3)Kitsume style 5)Kitsume tricks 6) Kitsume Vengeance or Greater dirty trick 7) the other

Am thinking of putting some unchained rogue levels (no more than 3) in the latter build.

What am I not seeing?

[Markov Spiked Chain]

I think Magus works very well as a maneuver focused character. You get pseudo-full BaB from Maneuver Mastery, Accurate Strike, and Bladed Lash or True Strike with Spell Combat for ridiculous CMB totals. Might be worth considering or multiclassing in.

[Ventnor]

I think Brawler is a better choice for this character because there are some enemies which simply cannot be tripped. Martial flexibility means that when you fight those enemies, you can have feats that will help you better face those foes instead of feats which are useless in that particular encounter.

[Kerney]

Anyone else

[Pink Dragon]

Any class plus 1 level of bloodrager to use a wand of true strike and a horsechopper.

[avr]

Markov's right. Once you get the wand wielder arcana and a wand of true strike your CMB is always going to be better than any purely martial type. You could stop there with a magus 3 dip or you could carry on, maybe grab a few other spells for doing ranged combat maneuvers too.

[MageHunter]

Lore Warden gets insane Combat Maneuver Bonuses. Maybe a dip in Unchained Monk and they can take on everything.

I would either dip in a heavy armor class, or go DEX based. Weapon Finesse works for some maneuvers.

[miscdebris]

MageHunter wrote:

Lore Warden gets insane Combat Maneuver Bonuses. Maybe a dip in Unchained Monk and they can take on everything.

I would either dip in a heavy armor class, or go DEX based. Weapon Finesse works for some maneuvers.

I would stick with the core monk with the maneuver master archetype. Leading your attacks with a flurry of maneuvers dirty trick is pretty sexy. You can even follow the initial trip with the dirty trick in there for a better change to land it.

Also, Lore Warden is Good.

I have one I've been working on. My maneuver lasher

[666bender]

Lore warden X with 4 levels in Unchained Rouge (thug or rake) .
the sheer number of effects you do, with or without a check is insane :
thug 4:
need enforcer, but every attack will have a free shaken that turn into a fear effect + sicken (no check).
Rake 4:
easier free intimidate every attack.
Skulking slayer 4:
every attack = a free dirty trick.
EVERY rogue 4 also add:
-2 AC (-4 vs rogue) + no AOO (rogue talent).

than add:
spear dancer = dazzled
several dirty trick effects.
maybe even a trip.

the lore warden offer a super CMB, but it can work well on a 2 weapon slayer X \ rogue 4

[Kerney]

Like the Maneuver master best of the suggestions so far.

Problem: Character concept routinely swears by Besmara's left tit and other such things.

Other than martial artist and that Agathion Aasimar blooded race trait, is there any other way around those alignment restrictions?