Not all of them. Urban Barbarian comes to mind as modifying aspects of rage that Unchained doesn't have.
I expect almost all of them are fine, but you'll have to look case by case.
and summoners(none work)
Not actually the case. From Paizo's Unchained announcement:
The unchained summoner qualifies for all existing summoner archetypes, save those that modify the eidolon's type or base form.
Yeah, no quick and easy answer.
Some barbarian archetypes are probably fine but not all of them.
If the archetype affects something that was changed by unchained then there is a chance they don't work, though depending on what exactly was changed it might be okay.
PFS has clear, can't alter rage, for unchained archetypes.
The book has nothing like that, though the GM would need to decide how some of the interactions are handled.
Archetypes postdating Unchained have been made to work with both monk versions (and say so). They're piling up fast :-)
are there any that dont change the edolon?and summoners(none work)Not actually the case. From Paizo's Unchained announcement:
The unchained summoner qualifies for all existing summoner archetypes, save those that modify the eidolon's type or base form.
The Evolutionist, for one.
It's not "doesn't change the eidolon" that's the criteria, it's "doesn't modify the eidolon's type or base form".
So among all current summoner archetypes: (As listed by Nethys)
Blood Summoner: Legal (doesn't change eidolon)
Broodmaster: Debatable (mini eidolons don't change the form but it might count anyways)
Counter-Summoner: Legal (doesn't change eidolon)
Evolutionist: Legal (doesn't change eidolon)
First World Summoner: Not Legal (changes eidolon type to fey)
Master Summoner: Legal (changes only to effective summoner level)
Morphic Savant: Legal (includes Unchained notes)
Naturalist: Legal (doesn't change eidolon)
Pyroclast: Legal (adds abilities and alters pool only)
Shadow Caller: Legal (alters symbol of identification only)
Shaitan Binder: Debatable (ostensibly legal, but gives evolutions that unchained doesn't have)
Spirit Summoner: Legal (applies thematic restrictions only)
Story Summoner: Legal (only adds abilities)
Synthesist: Debatable (makes too many changes, but type and base form aren't among them)
Unwavering Conduit: Legal (includes Unchained notes)
Wild Caller (HotW version): Not Legal (changes base type)
Wild Caller (ARG version): Legal (adds evolution points, restricts evolutions)
This does not include PFS legality, merely compatibility.
hmm neat unchained summoner is still crap thoIt's not "doesn't change the eidolon" that's the criteria, it's "doesn't modify the eidolon's type or base form".
So among all current summoner archetypes: (As listed by Nethys)
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This does not include PFS legality, merely compatibility.
It all depends on whether the eidolon type and associated details are a good match for the eidolon you want. If they are, then the Unchained Summoner is an improvement for you. Otherwise, not so much.
Frankly, if I were playing a summoner today, I would probably go with the Psychopomp. Immunity to poison and disease is valuable when you cannot heal ability score damage on your eidolon until you reach 4th level or the party cleric reaches 3rd level.
The only real changes from the APG summoner to the Unchained version are:
1) tying the eidolon more strictly to an outsider type, rather than allowing unlimited selection of base form and evolutions
2) changing the Pounce evolution from a 1-pt evolution with no level requirement to a 3-pt evolution with a minimum summoner level 7
3) changing the spell list to remove some imbalances*
*- frankly, the APG summoner list was a bit too good and contained some weird selections (why would class specialized in Conjuration have simulacrum?); IMO, the Unchained list goes a little too far the other way (lesser planar binding should have remained a 4th-level spell and a planar binding a 5th-level spell)