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The core races
The eastern races: Kitsune wayang tengu Nagaji
The elemental races: Slyph, Oread, Ifrit, ondine.
It is of note that the elemental races still require boons according to the additional resources page:
To create an aasimar, changeling, dhampir, fetchling, grippli, goblin, ifrit, oread, ratfolk, samsaran, suli, sylph, tiefling, undine, or vishkanya character, you must have a Chronicle sheet that opens the race as a legal option at character creation. Aasimars and tieflings that were created and had at least one xp applied before August 14, 2014, remain legal for play. The boon restriction to create a kitsune, nagaji, and wayang was removed at the start of Season 6 and all three are now available for open creation.
I suspect this is an oversight and will be fixed, but as is, they elemental races still require boons.
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To be more specific, download the new Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide. Page 24, item 2: Race and Age
Select your character’s race. The choices offered in the Core
Rulebook are always available, as are ifrit, kitsune, nagaji,
oread, sylph, tengu, undine, and wayang, provided you
own a copy of the appropriate source book. Other races are
available as campaign boons; the Chronicle sheet in which
such a boon is available must be the first Chronicle sheet
applied to a character.
I do hope, however, that they update the Additional Resources page to reflect this.
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To be more specific, download the new Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide. Page 24, item 2: Race and Age
Select your character’s race. The choices offered in the Core
Rulebook are always available, as are ifrit, kitsune, nagaji,
oread, sylph, tengu, undine, and wayang, provided you
own a copy of the appropriate source book. Other races are
available as campaign boons; the Chronicle sheet in which
such a boon is available must be the first Chronicle sheet
applied to a character.I do hope, however, that they update the Additional Resources page to reflect this.
Isn't the "appropriate source book" governed by the Additional Resources page?
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Isn't the "appropriate source book" governed by the Additional Resources page?
Pathfinder Society runs off of the combined efforts of the Guide, the Forums, the FAQ, Campaign Leadership, GMs, VOs, the Additional Resources document, the Campaign Clarifications document, the Web Traits enhancement, and the various sources themselves.
It's a living, changing machine of interlocking parts.
When we KNOW that one cog is in disrepair, it is disingenuous to hold it up as the ideal for the rest of the system.
This should be stickied at the top of this board. The additional resources page is a mess, and finding anything (especially on an iphone) is a pain. This is a commonly asked question, and no player (especially a new player) should have to go digging for it.
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This should be stickied at the top of this board. The additional resources page is a mess, and finding anything (especially on an iphone) is a pain. This is a commonly asked question, and no player (especially a new player) should have to go digging for it.
That's why it's in the Guide, which should be every player's first point of reference for PFS specific rules.
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Isn't the "appropriate source book" governed by the Additional Resources page?Pathfinder Society runs off of the combined efforts of the Guide, the Forums, the FAQ, Campaign Leadership, GMs, VOs, the Additional Resources document, the Campaign Clarifications document, the Web Traits enhancement, and the various sources themselves
the alignment of the planets, phrenology, time, temperature, relative humidity, the music of the spheres, pizza levels of the GM's stomachs...
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Even if that were true, the first 4 scenarios of season 8 (8-00 through 8-03) were released at GenCon, a month ago. I've already played all 4 of them, and GMed one of them.
But no, that's just not true. The new Guide goes into effect at GenCon every year. I haven't seen anyone say otherwise for this year, and I know several people who have already started PCs with the new races.
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Side note, although not stated directly in the guide, directions very much imply that non-CRB races are legal in Core for player characters. You'd think they'd mention this somewhere in the playable races, given that Core is introduced beforehand.
Not everything need be excruciatingly detailed to the Nth degree.
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Side note, although not stated directly in the guide, directions very much imply that non-CRB races are legal in Core for player characters. You'd think they'd mention this somewhere in the playable races, given that Core is introduced beforehand.
Only way to access something not in the CRB in a core campaign is if you have a boon from core campaign that allows it. This includes races, archtypes, classes, spells, equipment, widgets, and whatzits.
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(similarly, although Kahel didn't list "whoosits", they would likewise not be legal in CORE without a Chronicle opening them up)what about whatsits? They're not explicitly listed so i can assume they're allowed.
I presumed Kahel was British, since he/she listed "whatzits" (with a "Z", not an "S"), but of course, "RAW", I have nothing to refute that.
EDIT: darn, ninja'd by just a handful of seconds =P
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I presumed Kahel was British, since he/she listed "whatzits" (with a "Z", not an "S"), but of course, "RAW", I have nothing to refute that.
Born in Germany, am a US Citizen (both parents were in the service at the time), live in the midwest, have watched far too much Doctor Who and Red Dwarf. Among other good British shows. Somewhere along the way I picked up certain britisisms such as using "bloody" as a curse.
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Nothing outside of the CRB is legal in core, how can you come to the conclusion that races are?
I'll get the quotes when I'm next at my PC. Basically core does indeed say only crb, this guide, and the character traits PDF. But on the very next page, character creation of this guide gives a very specific list of the legal player races, with no reference to core being any different.
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Nothing outside of the CRB is legal in core, how can you come to the conclusion that races are?I'll get the quotes when I'm next at my PC. Basically core does indeed say only crb, this guide, and the character traits PDF. But on the very next page, character creation of this guide gives a very specific list of the legal player races, with no reference to core being any different.
That list is a general statement, the limitations for Core are specific. As with the game itself, specific trumps general.
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Do we really need to duplicate the entire character creation chapter just because someone might try to pull a fast one that absolutely no one is going to actually fall for?Nothing outside of the CRB is legal in core, how can you come to the conclusion that races are?I'll get the quotes when I'm next at my PC. Basically core does indeed say only crb, this guide, and the character traits PDF. But on the very next page, character creation of this guide gives a very specific list of the legal player races, with no reference to core being any different.
A single sentence to avoid confusion for new players might not be a terrible idea. That's really all it would take.
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The description of core campaign seems pretty self explanatory to me. I mean, if the stats for playing a race don't appear in the CRB, and you're in a campaign which limits you to what's in the CRB... There's no real justification for wanting to play a race from other books. Books which you need to own a pfs legal copy of to even play those races anyway. Just because an elemental race is legal to make, doesn't mean you're allowed to make a character of that race without owning the right books.
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Do we really need to duplicate the entire character creation chapter just because someone might try to pull a fast one that absolutely no one is going to actually fall for?Nothing outside of the CRB is legal in core, how can you come to the conclusion that races are?I'll get the quotes when I'm next at my PC. Basically core does indeed say only crb, this guide, and the character traits PDF. But on the very next page, character creation of this guide gives a very specific list of the legal player races, with no reference to core being any different.A single sentence to avoid confusion for new players might not be a terrible idea. That's really all it would take.
And that is my only point. Just a suggestion on a point of clarity, since the PFS team will probably be editing this document anyway.