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Title says it all
Oracle, the one true SAD class. They get Charisma to everything!* To be even more specific, Lunar Oracles (even though Nature Oracle is the strongest class in the game)**. Honestly, one of my favorite PF classes.
*Not actually everything, just a lot of things.
**At 20th level.
Skalds, why because skalds are bards with rage to share.
I'd go with Bard... Good spell selection, some excellent Archetypes and the highest skill points by a HUGE margin... What's not to love?
Skalds, why because skalds are bards with rage to share.
A completely useless feature if you have no target for it and given the popularity of casters, archers and Dex based melee... that's no small chance.
Sorcerer-my favorite of any class. Tons of spells and pages of spell knowledge can round out your spells known.
Oracle, the one true SAD class. They get Charisma to everything!* To be even more specific, Lunar Oracles (even though Nature Oracle is the strongest class in the game)**. Honestly, one of my favorite PF classes.
*Not actually everything, just a lot of things.
**At 20th level.
I think the Razmiran Priest has it beat.
By level 20 there are so many factors but having access to nearly every spell in the game has got to tip things towards the Razmirans.
My fav is ofc the summoner , which is also my fav in the game.
After that it is either the spiritualist (CHA archetype) or Sorc , both of which i also enjoy.
Personally i greatly favor CHA based classes myself heh , having high performance is really nice.
Oracle, the one true SAD class. They get Charisma to everything!* To be even more specific, Lunar Oracles (even though Nature Oracle is the strongest class in the game)**. Honestly, one of my favorite PF classes.
*Not actually everything, just a lot of things.
**At 20th level.
I think the Razmiran Priest has it beat.
By level 20 there are so many factors but having access to nearly every spell in the game has got to tip things towards the Razmirans.
What? A nature oracle can obtain an arbitrary charisma at level 20. Charisma can be applied to initiative, increases the number of spells per day and their DC and a lot of other things. Spam miracles all day at arbitrary high DC while being first in the round.
Bard. Why? Because bards are the best.
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I thought your favorite class was paladin?
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My favorite is also bard ;)
Second favorite is paladin and third favorite is sorc or oracle.
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mesmerist :) for no particular reason... I just like looking at things.
What? A nature oracle can obtain an arbitrary charisma at level 20. Charisma can be applied to initiative, increases the number of spells per day and their DC and a lot of other things. Spam miracles all day at arbitrary high DC while being first in the round.Oracle, the one true SAD class. They get Charisma to everything!* To be even more specific, Lunar Oracles (even though Nature Oracle is the strongest class in the game)**. Honestly, one of my favorite PF classes.
*Not actually everything, just a lot of things.
**At 20th level.
I think the Razmiran Priest has it beat.
By level 20 there are so many factors but having access to nearly every spell in the game has got to tip things towards the Razmirans.
Spells per day is almost a moot point for a level 20 caster. Miracle is very powerful to be sure but the Arcane spell list is generally considered to be better that the Divine list. We may have to agree to disagree. At the end of the day it really comes down to who is better prepared and who is faster. (Both classes can have charisma to init via noble scion of war).
Medium multi-class with Bard (Investigator), so much fun, oozes versatility.
What? A nature oracle can obtain an arbitrary charisma at level 20. Charisma can be applied to initiative, increases the number of spells per day and their DC and a lot of other things. Spam miracles all day at arbitrary high DC while being first in the round.Oracle, the one true SAD class. They get Charisma to everything!* To be even more specific, Lunar Oracles (even though Nature Oracle is the strongest class in the game)**. Honestly, one of my favorite PF classes.
*Not actually everything, just a lot of things.
**At 20th level.
I think the Razmiran Priest has it beat.
By level 20 there are so many factors but having access to nearly every spell in the game has got to tip things towards the Razmirans.Spells per day is almost a moot point for a level 20 caster. Miracle is very powerful to be sure but the Arcane spell list is generally considered to be better that the Divine list. We may have to agree to disagree. At the end of the day it really comes down to who is better prepared and who is faster. (Both classes can have charisma to init via noble scion of war).
Yes both can have Cha to initiative, but when the Oracle's Cha mod is +9814791561956193417923847913 and the Sorcerer's is +12, something tells me the Oracle is going to win initiative.... (not to mention has nigh infinite health, only misses on a 1 and only fails a save on a 1)
But enough about that, Bard master race is where it's at!
Swashbuckler.
Yes, I am fishing for oddball points... ;)
Bards. Oracles and Paladins come in second.
What? A nature oracle can obtain an arbitrary charisma at level 20. Charisma can be applied to initiative, increases the number of spells per day and their DC and a lot of other things. Spam miracles all day at arbitrary high DC while being first in the round.
uh, mind explaining how that works? I don't see anything in the nature mystery's final revelation that increases stats.
Final Revelation: At 20th level, you have discovered the intrinsic secrets of life itself, granting you incredible control over your own body. Once per day, you can surround yourself with an organic cocoon as a full-round action. While enclosed in the cocoon, you are considered helpless. Eight hours later, you emerge having changed your type to plant, animal, or humanoid, gaining superficial physical characteristics as appropriate (see the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary). This change does not alter your Hit Dice, hit points, saving throws, skill points, class skills, or proficiencies. Each time the transformation is made, you are cleansed of all poisons or diseases, are restored to full hit points, and heal all ability damage. You must select a new type every time the transformation is made.
It might involve abusing the s%## out of the Awaken Spell. As you could change your type back to animal/plant and recast it on yourself after draining your int back down to < 3. Which given time and money (or maybe blood money) lets you have massive amounts of hit dice and mental stats.
It might involve abusing the s*&# out of the Awaken Spell. As you could change your type back to animal/plant and recast it on yourself after draining your int back down to < 3. Which given time and money (or maybe blood money) lets you have massive amounts of hit dice and mental stats.
Except awaken doesn't work on an animal with intelligence greater than 2, which you would be.
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Bard, most definitely! Sound Striker being my fav archetype.
Paladin and oracle do get honorable mention.
But you cannot cast any spells at all once you have reduced your intelligence to less than 3.
What? A nature oracle can obtain an arbitrary charisma at level 20. Charisma can be applied to initiative, increases the number of spells per day and their DC and a lot of other things. Spam miracles all day at arbitrary high DC while being first in the round.Oracle, the one true SAD class. They get Charisma to everything!* To be even more specific, Lunar Oracles (even though Nature Oracle is the strongest class in the game)**. Honestly, one of my favorite PF classes.
*Not actually everything, just a lot of things.
**At 20th level.
I think the Razmiran Priest has it beat.
By level 20 there are so many factors but having access to nearly every spell in the game has got to tip things towards the Razmirans.Spells per day is almost a moot point for a level 20 caster. Miracle is very powerful to be sure but the Arcane spell list is generally considered to be better that the Divine list. We may have to agree to disagree. At the end of the day it really comes down to who is better prepared and who is faster. (Both classes can have charisma to init via noble scion of war).
I'm not saying that the arcane list is worse than the divine one. I actually believe the opposite. Miracle gives any spell of 7th level from the arcane list, and the Razmiran Priest allows to cast spells up to 8th level from the divine list. This gives us a divine/arcane access list of 9/7 for the oracle and 8/9 for the sorcerer, and since the sorcerer has to pay for the scroll while the oracle doesn't, I think they are on par on this.
But the oracle has an arbitrary high value of whatever has numbers.From HD we get stat increase, skill ranks, saves, feats and health.
People only saves on a 20, and we only fail on 1s, and we have rerolls. We act first, and then we cast the appropriate spell to vaporize the obstacle.
Wow so many bard lovers. By looking over these type of threads I am guessing bard is the most loved class out of all of them. Probably due to its versatility and role playing ability. Paladins and oracles and inquisitors are probably tied for second most liked. This is for every class not just charisma classes btw.
I'd go with Bard... Good spell selection, some excellent Archetypes and the highest skill points by a HUGE margin... What's not to love?
Skalds, why because skalds are bards with rage to share.A completely useless feature if you have no target for it and given the popularity of casters, archers and Dex based melee... that's no small chance.
I have never had a problem with this. Guess it's the popularity of str based melee.
So I still would rather play skalds.....and spell kenning rocks, lol
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Wow so many bard lovers. By looking over these type of threads I am guessing bard is the most loved class out of all of them. Probably due to its versatility and role playing ability. Paladins and oracles and inquisitors are probably tied for second most liked. This is for every class not just charisma classes btw.
Seems to me that looking a a thread that says favorite CHARISMA based character and making an extrapolation to all characters just might have an error in logic.....
not saying,
Just saying
Wow so many bard lovers. By looking over these type of threads I am guessing bard is the most loved class out of all of them. Probably due to its versatility and role playing ability. Paladins and oracles and inquisitors are probably tied for second most liked. This is for every class not just charisma classes btw.Seems to me that looking a a thread that says favorite CHARISMA based character and making an extrapolation to all characters just might have an error in logic.....
not saying,
Just saying
Umm I mean in any favorite class thread not just this one. Inquisitor is not a charisma based class
Anzyr I am guessing you are a power gamer?
Sorcerer.
Anzyr I am guessing you are a power gamer?Actually, I think he's a GM.
Actually I'm a GM, the group's main roleplayer, and one of the group's optimizers. I wear many hats.
Sorcerer that summons.
Two feats and 9 spells is all you need for a competent character. The rest is just whatever you want.
Actually I'm a GM, the group's main roleplayer, and one of the group's optimizers. I wear many hats.Anzyr I am guessing you are a power gamer?Actually, I think he's a GM.
ok just wondering cause of arkalion and your nature oracle. Is wizard or oracle your favorite class then?
Skalds, why because skalds are bards with rage to share.
Skalds are sadly the only class that is completely dependent on what the rest of the group make up is. Rage is useless for so many classes.
My favorite charisma based class is Anti paladin then paladin. Inquisitor would be third.
Skalds are sadly the only class that is completely dependent on what the rest of the group make up is. Rage is useless for so many classes.Skalds, why because skalds are bards with rage to share.
The rage still works for skald.
Spell kenning is better than boneed object. I get the same spells bards get.
Skald is the first bard concept I ever liked enough to play.
Skalds are sadly the only class that is completely dependent on what the rest of the group make up is. Rage is useless for so many classes.Skalds, why because skalds are bards with rage to share.
The rage still works for skald.
Spell kenning is better than boneed object. I get the same spells bards get.
Skald is the first bard concept I ever liked enough to play.
I am not saying the class is bad but it is by far the most situational class in the game. If your skald is the only STR martial in the group or even if there was only just one other STR martial the group is better off with a bard for that role.
Yes, I forgot the Bloodrager! Definitely my 2nd fav immediately after Bard. THEN Paladin and Oracle get my love as far as CHA based favs.
Inquisitor is not truly CHA based. WIS, really.
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... sad and lonely Mesmerist...
you sit and stare with hypnotic eye
The other players love you not...
but you are still my guy :)
ALTERNATIVE Gendered
... Mesmerist cast low and out...
Girl in a void as dark as night
The other players avoid your glare
when you choose to fight!
Non-gender specific (kinda)
Mesmerist you do not fight
with mace to break a bone
But even the medusa averts her eyes
for there is worse to be than stone...
AND THAT IS WHY MESMERIST IS BEST!!! lol
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Bard, easily. Paladin a close second though.
Love that last one 'box.
yeah... but I am not converting enough... which means my dream of being a Cult Master is just that... :(
lol
That team sounds TRULY awful.
In my gaming parties ability diversity was my main priority when making a character. If there was a wizard and an alchemist I was NOT making a witch. If there was a monk and cleric I was NOT going druid.
Not that that WIS thing ever happened. Our parties were always CHA heavy... Oracle, Bard parties... *eyeroll*