Strix and Humans breeding?


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So this is just a geewiz question and was curious about something. Me and my wife are playing in the Hell's Rebels Adventure Path Ran by my friend. She is playing a Human HydroKineticist and I am a Strix WitchDoctor. The story is that I was taken as Egg/Baby (Which is to be determined because we don't know hwo they are born) by the mayor of Kintargo a long time ago I was wingclipped and raised as a surrogate family member of the mayor's so i took the alternate racial trait that does not have me hate humans (Cautious Brawler) as I grew up which was fast becasue of the Strix racial aging I became friends with a local shop worker who was continually bullied by people (My Wife's Human Kineticist) I stood up for her. So Our goal in this campaign is to find the mayor who goes missing because she is like a mother to me and My wife's goal is to follow me in what ever I do. So romance is gonna blossom during the campaign and we were wondering if our two characters could have kids. We always joked and said they would be like little black cupids lol. If anyone knows if that is a yes or no I would like to hear. I would also like to here any suggestions or ideas.


Only with magical intervention. The articleric on the ecology of the Strix in the 5th Hell's Rebels book says that they're basically more like birds despite their humanoid shape. Canonically, humans can't breed with humanoids other than elves and orcs.


Paladin of Baha-who, I think you mean to say at this time there is no evidence to support humans breeding with races other than elves or orcs without powerful magic being involved (dragons).

To my knowledge there is nothing that says definitively that humans can only breed with elves and orcs.


As far as we are aware, strix are mammals, not reptiles. I would make the assumption (based on my non-insignificant knowledge of biology and Pathfinder) that they are born as humans are.

As far as actual sex, as far as we can tell by the race descriptions that is possible. As for actually breeding, the answer is probably going to be "Ask your GM". The biological question is completely up in the air. Why are there lots of half-elves and half-orcs but no half-dwarves or quarterlings (half-halfling)? We're not entirely sure.

I think the only real answer to this question is "Ask your GM for a houserule".


The general rule I've always heard is that the offspring, unless there is a specific half-race, is of the mother's race. Really it just depends on how "in depth" you want to go with it happening.

You have a couple of different direction: you can go monster girl quest style where anything can screw anything else, then you have realistic style where only things that would make sense (without being magically modified) is possible.

Remember that Half elves/orcs are holdouts from previous D&D systems, and that the developers are probably not going to make a Half race for everything connected to humans, then everything connected to elves, then everything connected to strix, .etc., they have limited resources when it comes to writing errata.


Ignoring diagetic justifications that discourage PCs from trying to interbreed various types of mythical creatures, you could just use the race creation mechanics from the ARG to represent the hybrid character. Set the RP equal to the average of the two races, spend half of them on racial abilities from the father race and half of them from the mother race.

Because really the only reason the text says "humans can only interbreed with such and such" is to save the artists and the designers from having to consider unusual pairings (half-dwarf/half-kitsune, half-merfolk/half-gnome, etc. ) If you want to have them in your game, it's pretty easy to figure out how they would work using the ARG mechanics.


This explains why human have such a bad reputation in certain circles.


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Philo Pharynx wrote:
This explains why human have such a bad reputation in certain circles.

I know, the homewrecker adventurer comes into town, gets all the girls pregnant, then leaves without paying any form of child support. Those human bastards!


It's not in the BoEF, but if you consider them closer to nymphs and satyrs, sure. But if they are like lizardfolk, gnomes, goblins, gnolls, or kobolds, no.


This is Quite interesting. My friend had a book of Erotic Fantasy from old 3.0 system and it shows a lot of things that humans can mate with but since Strix is a pathfinder only race it obviously wouldn't be found in that book. So that is why I was mostly curious. and I don't know what a strixs RP value is.


I honestly treat that book as an honest and amazing source of information. It gets some flack, but the book has a lot of very interesting information in it. Developmental differences between races and the kind of psychological problems that come up because of it. Spells to stave off pregnancy. It's wonderful.


So why using that book I can help my GM come to a conclusion? Are there any other suggestions before I talk to him about it?


I didnt spend much time on it , but i know there is a book called bastards of golarion that have something on humans with other races having kids.

On a side note , i really dont see why you even need a book to help , it seems something that will only please the players and not pose a direct issue to the game.


Personally I have always seen harpies as strictly female and relying on human males to reproduce, and considered strix similar in being primarily female and interbreeding with non-human humanoids (because of the racial hatred). A female strix and a human would likely reproduce in that sense, generating a strix offspring (or hybrid), as for a male strix, likely it would be similar so that the human would get pregnant but be more likely to birth a hybrid. Which would likely be a very troubled birth.


Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
Canonically, humans can't breed with humanoids other than elves and orcs.

Don't forget ogres.


Nox Aeterna wrote:
bastards of golarion

Almost sounds like a book about villains. ^_~


Haha I found that book I forgot I had it and it had that feature. SO pretty much I will be making up my own race for it by mixing both.


Samasboy1 wrote:
Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
Canonically, humans can't breed with humanoids other than elves and orcs.
Don't forget ogres.

Alright, good point. Hags, also (changelings).

The ecology of the Strix article indicates that they do give birth, even though their biology is more birdlike.


If you look at Humans of Golarion, you'll find a decent list of half-humans. It's actually somewhat disconcerting.

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Wait, do you have twice the same thread on different sections?

Dang answered in wrong thread I guess :P


Yeah I didn't think anyone would answer on the General Discussion so I put it under advice.

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Anyway, don't really feel like copy pasting my post from that thread, so I guess I could just add to that post here:

If you don't feel like just going for adoption(poor orphans of the world), I guess strix x human hybrid would probably be something like strix without wings or at least gliding wings instead of ones able to fly.

Also, Ogres can breed with all medium humanoids(Ogrekin is template that can be added on medium humanoids, so yes, there can be ogrekin tengu if you go by rules), not just humans(and giants for half ogres). So thats more of Ogre trait than human trait.

Changelings on otherhand can turn into hags, so they aren't exactly "half hag half humans", hags just aren't born as "hags".

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