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starts taping wings back onto butterflies.

Sorry!


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Treppa wrote:

The game sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I could handle the evil. I feel guilty about pulling the wings off butterflies in Skyrim.

the traditional tsr approach to evil along with a game run by Mark and the (mostly) evil game I have been running now with the all female gaming group has inspired me to look at alignment, particularly evil alignments differently. I have spoken to Sharoth about it not too long ago as well. I will send you what I have so far if you are interested.


Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

The bones of the story will be the old 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen. I'll need one player to assume the role of 'handler', basically ensuring that the other PCs stay on target. That person would have to be LN, or perhaps a very principled LE. The others? Well, this is the chance to play a fairly-high-level villainous character using any 3pp material you can find. I'm going to try and unearth my Book of Vile Darkness for this as well.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

Possible character idea: drow from an anti-Lolth faction. Kiaransalee (though, IIRC, they play a role in the adventure and might be unsuitable), Vhaeraun, demon-worshipper, maybe a secret cult that wishes to spread devil-worship or a Lawful Evil religion among drow cities.


Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

The bones of the story will be the old 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen. I'll need one player to assume the role of 'handler', basically ensuring that the other PCs stay on target. That person would have to be LN, or perhaps a very principled LE. The others? Well, this is the chance to play a fairly-high-level villainous character using any 3pp material you can find. I'm going to try and unearth my Book of Vile Darkness for this as well.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

Will this be 3.5e or Pathfinder?


Meh. Cold, cold and wet. And I should go to shop buy something to eat. Or sustain myself today with soup, noodles, and potatoes only.

RPG Superstar 2012

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I'm doing the random badger Christmas giveaway thingy again this year.


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So totally in!!!


Aranna wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

The bones of the story will be the old 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen. I'll need one player to assume the role of 'handler', basically ensuring that the other PCs stay on target. That person would have to be LN, or perhaps a very principled LE. The others? Well, this is the chance to play a fairly-high-level villainous character using any 3pp material you can find. I'm going to try and unearth my Book of Vile Darkness for this as well.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

Will this be 3.5e or Pathfinder?

Pathfinder, but previous 3.5 stuff like BoVD is useable


Drejk wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

The bones of the story will be the old 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen. I'll need one player to assume the role of 'handler', basically ensuring that the other PCs stay on target. That person would have to be LN, or perhaps a very principled LE. The others? Well, this is the chance to play a fairly-high-level villainous character using any 3pp material you can find. I'm going to try and unearth my Book of Vile Darkness for this as well.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

Possible character idea: drow from an anti-Lolth faction. Kiaransalee (though, IIRC, they play a role in the adventure and might be unsuitable), Vhaeraun, demon-worshipper, maybe a secret cult that wishes to spread devil-worship or a Lawful Evil religion among drow cities.

Kiaransalee does play a major role is this adventure, but you could play a devious mole or something of the sort. We could work something out


taig wrote:

I'm doing the random badger Christmas giveaway thingy again this year.

LOL

Your giveaway thingy is so popular, I cannot even get to the page!
The poor Paizo site just keeps giving me the 'Sorry Golem' every time I try! :)

Otherwise, I'm totally in! :)


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Aranna wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

The bones of the story will be the old 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen. I'll need one player to assume the role of 'handler', basically ensuring that the other PCs stay on target. That person would have to be LN, or perhaps a very principled LE. The others? Well, this is the chance to play a fairly-high-level villainous character using any 3pp material you can find. I'm going to try and unearth my Book of Vile Darkness for this as well.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

Will this be 3.5e or Pathfinder?

Pathfinder, but previous 3.5 stuff like BoVD is useable

INteresting,.... :)

Always interested in stuff you cook up Monkey! ;P


Freehold DM wrote:
Treppa wrote:

The game sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I could handle the evil. I feel guilty about pulling the wings off butterflies in Skyrim.

the traditional tsr approach to evil along with a game run by Mark and the (mostly) evil game I have been running now with the all female gaming group has inspired me to look at alignment, particularly evil alignments differently. I have spoken to Sharoth about it not too long ago as well. I will send you what I have so far if you are interested.

The way I'm approaching this is that evil doesn't mean stupid. These characters will likely be reprehensible, but I am hoping they will have a team cohesion fostered by the dangerous Underdark environment and the fact they will have some sort of deadmans switch on them administered by the handler to keep them focused on the goal. The reward for success is freedom (far away via planar shift or some such) and whatever they can loot from the draw as they go.

Using usually off limit measures to accomplish the goal (necromancy, torture, mind alteration, etc) will be an interesting change of pace.

RPG Superstar 2012

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Oopsie.

Here is the fixed link for the Christmas giveaway.


Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

I'm interested.

I've been tinkering with a character since this last summer.

A female half-elf cleric of Beshaba. If you need anything else, let me know Or contact me via Facebook.


Admiral Snaackbar wrote:
BluePigeon wrote:
A must have item on everybody's Christmas List. No, it's not a trap. I don't think it is.
That's.... that's truly monstrous!

Wait until you use it.


One job done. Time for job #2!


Well I'm treeeee..

Treefortin'


Just finished A Wise Man's Fear.

Not a bad series. I won't wait with baited breath for book 3. I heard about the wait time on the series. Plenty of other stuff to read.

I got a cheap audiobook of A Canticle for Liebowitz during one of Audible's many sales. That's my next one. I've read it half-a-dozen times and it still is a great story.


BluePigeon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

I'm interested.

I've been tinkering with a character since this last summer.

A female half-elf cleric of Beshaba. If you need anything else, let me know Or contact me via Facebook.

Sounds good BP. I'll put you on the list.


Ragadolf wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:


Pathfinder, but previous 3.5 stuff like BoVD is useable

INteresting,.... :)

Always interested in stuff you cook up Monkey! ;P

If you are interested I'd love to see your take on a charming villain (because I know that would be your take on it, LOL)


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:


Pathfinder, but previous 3.5 stuff like BoVD is useable

INteresting,.... :)

Always interested in stuff you cook up Monkey! ;P

If you are interested I'd love to see your take on a charming villain (because I know that would be your take on it, LOL)

Well,...

Actually, my first thought was a summoner (any version) who was more amoral than out-right evil. He doesn't kill because killing is fun, he just isn't bothered by killing you either. he thinks of everyone as his summons, ... disposable. >.> <.< -_-

But I actually like your idea better! ;P

Color me interested. :)


Patrick Curtin wrote:
I got a cheap audiobook of A Canticle for Liebowitz during one of Audible's many sales. That's my next one. I've read it half-a-dozen times and it still is a great story.

One of my abso-favorite books ever. I still remember the chill the first time I read "Come forth", because up to that point I had not gotten the Hermit at all. And coloring in the copy of the blueprint because there wasn't an understanding of why blueprints look the way they do struck me as emblematic of many of life's futilities. How much effort do we waste because we don't comprehend our circumstances? And... and.. and...

I could gush about Canticle for hours.


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Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
I got a cheap audiobook of A Canticle for Liebowitz during one of Audible's many sales. That's my next one. I've read it half-a-dozen times and it still is a great story.

One of my abso-favorite books ever. I still remember the chill the first time I read "Come forth", because up to that point I had not gotten the Hermit at all. And coloring in the copy of the blueprint because there wasn't an understanding of why blueprints look the way they do struck me as emblematic of many of life's futilities. How much effort do we waste because we don't comprehend our circumstances? And... and.. and...

I could gush about Canticle for hours.

And poor Brother Francis of Utah!


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
And poor Brother Francis of Utah!

One of the most hapless characters in all of literature.

I loved the shopping list, too. And Saint Liebowitz! Oy! Wonder how he'd have felt about being canonized by Catholics. :D


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The girl who owned a city is the book that does it for me. But not the latter editions, but the first printing, which is far darker than the more sanitized versions.

Scarab Sages

Patrick Curtin wrote:


And poor Brother Francis of Utah!

"We're the Flying Elvises! Utah Chapter!"


Freehold DM wrote:
The girl who owned a city is the book that does it for me. But not the latter editions, but the first printing, which is far darker than the more sanitized versions.

It seems like we have a new enemy. Scott Donald DUCK!


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Working again. Good news is the pay period helped me get on top of things. I'm pretty stoked about that


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I had one client move and another go out of business, but start with a new one Monday and a possible soon. Fingers crossed.


Rolling in the hours, waiting for the end...

RPG Superstar 2012

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I've got a new monster up on the blog


Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
And poor Brother Francis of Utah!

One of the most hapless characters in all of literature.

I loved the shopping list, too. And Saint Liebowitz! Oy! Wonder how he'd have felt about being canonized by Catholics. :D

And the ever-annoying patron saint of arrogant scientists, Thon Thaddeo Pfardentrott


Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
And poor Brother Francis of Utah!

One of the most hapless characters in all of literature.

I loved the shopping list, too. And Saint Liebowitz! Oy! Wonder how he'd have felt about being canonized by Catholics. :D

Well, he did found a monastic order after becoming a Catholic priest, so I think his Judiaism was pretty much in the rear view mirror by the time the simpleton mob roasted him alive while hanging him.

Silver Crusade

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Patrick Curtin wrote:

So, just floating this out there. I keep revisiting my idea of a Suicide Squad-style mission where the PCs get to play super-evil characters enlisted against their will to perform a mission. I'm thinking just before Christmas I'll be pulling the trigger. I'm floating out here in the Treefort to see if there is any interest before I broaden the recruitment.

The bones of the story will be the old 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen. I'll need one player to assume the role of 'handler', basically ensuring that the other PCs stay on target. That person would have to be LN, or perhaps a very principled LE. The others? Well, this is the chance to play a fairly-high-level villainous character using any 3pp material you can find. I'm going to try and unearth my Book of Vile Darkness for this as well.

Players would start off in some sort of fantasy-based SuperMax prison designed to hold highly-skilled and magical beings.

Motives could be anything. You could just want to escape. Perhaps indulge in whatever vile things your character is famous for. Suborn and convert the drow to your foul gods.

I'll keep y'all posted

I'm in. My life is about to become way less hectic.

Evil games can be caster-heavy, so I might think of an assassin or else some type of tank.

Silver Crusade

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Treppa wrote:

The game sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I could handle the evil. I feel guilty about pulling the wings off butterflies in Skyrim.

I feel like I have to apologize whenever I trap somebody in a black soul gem. I try to reserve that fate for necromancers and the like. Random soldiers don't deserve that fate.

Silver Crusade

Afternoon, all. What did I miss?


Yeah still trying to get the hang of evil... So far my most notorious villain was someone who made the rich disappear so that she could give good paying jobs to the poor. Still it's worth trying out now and then.

Silver Crusade

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Now, enough procrastinating. These vows aren't going to finish writing themselves....


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
And poor Brother Francis of Utah!

One of the most hapless characters in all of literature.

I loved the shopping list, too. And Saint Liebowitz! Oy! Wonder how he'd have felt about being canonized by Catholics. :D

Well, he did found a monastic order after becoming a Catholic priest, so I think his Judiaism was pretty much in the rear view mirror by the time the simpleton mob roasted him alive while hanging him.

I had it in my mind that he saw the church as a sort of refuge and community after Emma died, not necessarily as a religious thing. I could be entirely off-base; it's been a looong time since I re-read it.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Now, enough procrastinating. These vows aren't going to finish writing themselves....

Remember to make house rules clear beforehand, so you don't end up with discussions of RAI vs RAW.


Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
And poor Brother Francis of Utah!

One of the most hapless characters in all of literature.

I loved the shopping list, too. And Saint Liebowitz! Oy! Wonder how he'd have felt about being canonized by Catholics. :D

Well, he did found a monastic order after becoming a Catholic priest, so I think his Judiaism was pretty much in the rear view mirror by the time the simpleton mob roasted him alive while hanging him.

I had it in my mind that he saw the church as a sort of refuge and community after Emma died, not necessarily as a religious thing. I could be entirely off-base; it's been a looong time since I re-read it.

Yeah I have the upper hand, having just reread (listened to?) the relevant passage that talks about Liebowitz. He was likely a secular scientist of Jewish extraction who found refuge in the Church at a time when even admitting you knew how to read was a death sentence. I'm sure , much like for Brother Francis , the Church was the only place someone with a thirst for a bookish life could find succor. His mission of preserving knowledge when the mob danced for joy around burning books was a noble one, no matter his religious calling.

I'm sure he would have gotten a good guffaw out of the canonization though, for reals..


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HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS I JUST MET BIGGS AND GOT HIS AUTOGRAPH!

WEDDING TOMORROW!

BEST WEEKEND EVER! L

Scarab Sages

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Celestial Healer wrote:
Afternoon, all. What did I miss?

Well, Max's Big Day turned even bigger when, at the last minute, he won an all-expenses paid honeymoon trip to beautiful Beaver, Oklahoma, Cow Chip Throwing Capital of the World! Meanwhile, Gary's own plan to completely renovate Max's home as a wedding gift had hit a snag, as the solid gold toilet seats he'd ordered became lost during shipment. And, across town, Patrick and Scott were fast at work on a genetically engineered......No, wait! That's my soap opera!


Celestial Healer wrote:
Treppa wrote:

The game sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I could handle the evil. I feel guilty about pulling the wings off butterflies in Skyrim.

I feel like I have to apologize whenever I trap somebody in a black soul gem. I try to reserve that fate for necromancers and the like. Random soldiers don't deserve that fate.

Bandits do. Or at least they did until Dawnguard.


Heck, my game crashes every 5-15 minutes now anyway, so butterflies are safe.

I started cleaning out the cupboard in preparation for the new year (I like to have things clean and mended and new to greet the year). There's now soup on the stove made from ingredients from 2013-2014. I did chuck the chicken that was best by April 2012, but I put the beer with the 2012 date into the soup. The yeast bread mix from 2013 actually worked. I was as surprised as heck when the yeast bloomed, but it's fairly good. Tastes old, but not dangerous.

My roomie doesn't cook much. Good thing I got here. :)


*yawn*

Well, that nap didn't go as planned, lol


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Anything weird about doing chores at midnight? Not when you are a monkey with the abberant template!


Eh? When you work first and second shift then midnight IS the free time you have to do chores.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Treppa wrote:

The game sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I could handle the evil. I feel guilty about pulling the wings off butterflies in Skyrim.

I feel like I have to apologize whenever I trap somebody in a black soul gem. I try to reserve that fate for necromancers and the like. Random soldiers don't deserve that fate.

It's weird-- I have a really hard time being evil in video games, but in pen & paper RPGs, it's always been maybe a little too easy.


I'd say it was just easy enough.

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