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Alright it all started when a buddy of mine and I saw a piece of artwork and said we need to make this in to twins like an oriental Iridian Choir:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/329959110172319820/
So My question is about Using a Large Aldori Dueling Sword it worked out on Hero Lab but that doesn't mean it's Kosher, I understand that it can't be Weapon finessed because it's not the size of the Wielder and I would still take a -2 to attack. I look at Amiri as an example of Large Version weapons being wielded by Medium Creatures. In Black Blade It creates a large one as well on Hero Lab and it still applies the -2 penalty as it should and doesn't show it as illegal, but is it Society Legal?
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Funny thing, that your buddy found my roll 20 avatar pic^^ (Pinterest es kind a evil in that regard, you start searching for a pawn picture, and before you know it 5 hours have passed you have downloaded 100+ pictures).
It should work, nothing in the class description ( or rather the sidebar) prevents weapons over medium size. Katana could work for that picture as well, since they are slightly curved too.
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Funny thing, that your buddy found my roll 20 avatar pic^^ (Pinterest es kind a evil in that regard, you start searching for a pawn picture, and before you know it 5 hours have passed you have downloaded 100+ pictures).
It should work, nothing in the class description ( or rather the sidebar) prevents weapons over medium size. Katana could work for that picture as well, since they are slightly curved too.
Uh That picture is Frigging Awesome it had us up all night with ideas can we put up a shrine in your name?
Alright it all started when a buddy of mine and I saw a piece of artwork and said we need to make this in to twins like an oriental Iridian Choir:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/329959110172319820/
So My question is about Using a Large Aldori Dueling Sword it worked out on Hero Lab but that doesn't mean it's Kosher, I understand that it can't be Weapon finessed because it's not the size of the Wielder and I would still take a -2 to attack. I look at Amiri as an example of Large Version weapons being wielded by Medium Creatures. In Black Blade It creates a large one as well on Hero Lab and it still applies the -2 penalty as it should and doesn't show it as illegal, but is it Society Legal?
If you want to totally remove spell combat from your combat options list, than yes. Spell Combat requires that one hand remain free at all times. Only certain archetypes bypass that and Kensai isn't one of them.
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If you want to totally remove spell combat from your combat options list, than yes. Spell Combat requires that one hand remain free at all times. Only certain archetypes bypass that and Kensai isn't one of them.Alright it all started when a buddy of mine and I saw a piece of artwork and said we need to make this in to twins like an oriental Iridian Choir:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/329959110172319820/
So My question is about Using a Large Aldori Dueling Sword it worked out on Hero Lab but that doesn't mean it's Kosher, I understand that it can't be Weapon finessed because it's not the size of the Wielder and I would still take a -2 to attack. I look at Amiri as an example of Large Version weapons being wielded by Medium Creatures. In Black Blade It creates a large one as well on Hero Lab and it still applies the -2 penalty as it should and doesn't show it as illegal, but is it Society Legal?
Yeah I understand that we only planned on doing before battle buffs as we didn't plan on using the blade to channel touch attacks we planned on using the attack spells when we couldn't use our weapons.
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You don't really need to use spell combat as a magus. I mean, sure, that's a big part of the class gone to waste if you don't, but it's decently effective as a pure gish as well. Something like a bard or a bloodrager would eventually do more damage in melee but they can't also blast as well. Bonus: you get to pick some non-standard archetype which you'd otherwise never take just because it messes with either spell combat or spell strike.
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Uh That picture is Frigging Awesome it had us up all night with ideas can we put up a shrine in your name?Funny thing, that your buddy found my roll 20 avatar pic^^ (Pinterest es kind a evil in that regard, you start searching for a pawn picture, and before you know it 5 hours have passed you have downloaded 100+ pictures).
It should work, nothing in the class description ( or rather the sidebar) prevents weapons over medium size. Katana could work for that picture as well, since they are slightly curved too.
To clarify I didn't create the picture I just use it, as an avatar on an virtual tabletop ^^
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I don't see what would prevent you using Weapon Finesse with a Large Aldori duelling sword if you're proficient. It would work much like, slightly worse than an elven curve blade (which my magus uses, though I wouldn't cite him as a paragon of effectiveness).
However, a black blade must be a one-handed slashing weapon. A bastard sword works (I'd guess that's by design) but a two-handed weapon is not a viable form.
If it must be one handed then Bastard Sword cannot be used as it is a two handed weapon. I agree it could get confusing for Logic, so to me PF needs to make an Addendum whether it is the size of the weapon or the design. Clarity, because if not it becomes subject to opinion not word of Law nor spirit of Law.
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The bastard sword IS a one handed exotic weapon with the special property that mere martial users can use it in two hands no porblem.
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If it must be one handed then Bastard Sword cannot be used as it is a two handed weapon.I don't see what would prevent you using Weapon Finesse with a Large Aldori duelling sword if you're proficient. It would work much like, slightly worse than an elven curve blade (which my magus uses, though I wouldn't cite him as a paragon of effectiveness).
However, a black blade must be a one-handed slashing weapon. A bastard sword works (I'd guess that's by design) but a two-handed weapon is not a viable form.
A bastard sword of your size is a one-handed weapon (CRB, Table 6-4). You just need a feat to use it properly.
If you want to totally remove spell combat from your combat options list, than yes. Spell Combat requires that one hand remain free at all times. Only certain archetypes bypass that and Kensai isn't one of them.Alright it all started when a buddy of mine and I saw a piece of artwork and said we need to make this in to twins like an oriental Iridian Choir:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/329959110172319820/
So My question is about Using a Large Aldori Dueling Sword it worked out on Hero Lab but that doesn't mean it's Kosher, I understand that it can't be Weapon finessed because it's not the size of the Wielder and I would still take a -2 to attack. I look at Amiri as an example of Large Version weapons being wielded by Medium Creatures. In Black Blade It creates a large one as well on Hero Lab and it still applies the -2 penalty as it should and doesn't show it as illegal, but is it Society Legal?
The only archetypes that I know of that get around needing a free hand for Spell Combat are Eldritch Archer (works only when wielding a Bow) and Skirnir (works only when wielding a Shield, and comes online late). Any other archetypes that do this?
Magus needs a new archetype that works well with two-handed weapons.
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A bastard sword of your size is a one-handed weapon (CRB, Table 6-4). You just need a feat to use it properly.If it must be one handed then Bastard Sword cannot be used as it is a two handed weapon.I don't see what would prevent you using Weapon Finesse with a Large Aldori duelling sword if you're proficient. It would work much like, slightly worse than an elven curve blade (which my magus uses, though I wouldn't cite him as a paragon of effectiveness).
However, a black blade must be a one-handed slashing weapon. A bastard sword works (I'd guess that's by design) but a two-handed weapon is not a viable form.
Thank you.
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If you want to totally remove spell combat from your combat options list, than yes. Spell Combat requires that one hand remain free at all times. Only certain archetypes bypass that and Kensai isn't one of them.Alright it all started when a buddy of mine and I saw a piece of artwork and said we need to make this in to twins like an oriental Iridian Choir:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/329959110172319820/
So My question is about Using a Large Aldori Dueling Sword it worked out on Hero Lab but that doesn't mean it's Kosher, I understand that it can't be Weapon finessed because it's not the size of the Wielder and I would still take a -2 to attack. I look at Amiri as an example of Large Version weapons being wielded by Medium Creatures. In Black Blade It creates a large one as well on Hero Lab and it still applies the -2 penalty as it should and doesn't show it as illegal, but is it Society Legal?
The only archetypes that I know of that get around needing a free hand for Spell Combat are Eldritch Archer (works only when wielding a Bow) and Skirnir (works only when wielding a Shield, and comes online late). Any other archetypes that do this?
Magus needs a new archetype that works well with two-handed weapons.
Mindblade magus can do that at a relatively high level.
^Oops -- forgot about that one, because it doesn't modify Spell Combat (although ti later replaces Greater Spell Combat), but instead modifies the spellcasting so that you don't need a free hand or any special ability equivalent to a free hand (Eldritch Archer, Skirnir). Still, would be good to have a Magus archetype that has conventional spellcasting that works well with (manufactured) two-handed weapons.
Might of the Magus has options for two-handed Magi, and Somatic Weapon should also do the trick.
Both are 3rd party though, so there's that instant stigma of 3rd party stuff on them by a lot of people. Which is funny, since Pathfinder is 3rd party...
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Might of the Magus has options for two-handed Magi, and Somatic Weapon should also do the trick.
Both are 3rd party though, so there's that instant stigma of 3rd party stuff on them by a lot of people. Which is funny, since Pathfinder is 3rd party...
But this discussion is in the PFS section of the boards, so no third party stuff, other than a couple of monsters form the Complete Tome of Horrors used in scenarios, nothing for PCs.
But this discussion is in the PFS section of the boards, so no third party stuff, other than a couple of monsters form the Complete Tome of Horrors used in scenarios, nothing for PCs.Might of the Magus has options for two-handed Magi, and Somatic Weapon should also do the trick.
Both are 3rd party though, so there's that instant stigma of 3rd party stuff on them by a lot of people. Which is funny, since Pathfinder is 3rd party...
Ah, I remember looking and only seeing general discussion. My apologies. Perhaps grow more arms? Alchemist could help.
^I don't think Prehensile Hair counts as a free hand for spellcasting. Dipping in Alchemist and getting Vestigial Arms might, though (since you aren't using them for actual extra attacks, just Somatic components of spellcasting), although this means a minimum dip of 2 levels, making the trait Magical Knack a must-have.
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Alright it all started when a buddy of mine and I saw a piece of artwork and said we need to make this in to twins like an oriental Iridian Choir:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/329959110172319820/
So My question is about Using a Large Aldori Dueling Sword it worked out on Hero Lab but that doesn't mean it's Kosher, I understand that it can't be Weapon finessed because it's not the size of the Wielder and I would still take a -2 to attack. I look at Amiri as an example of Large Version weapons being wielded by Medium Creatures. In Black Blade It creates a large one as well on Hero Lab and it still applies the -2 penalty as it should and doesn't show it as illegal, but is it Society Legal?
Why not use a Nodashi and save yourself the feat tax and minus to hit
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Except that spell combat is pretty explicitly a form of two weapon fighting, so is *is* getting you an extra attack, and therefore vestigial arms does not work.
Basically, what you are asking for is being allowed to two weapon fight while holding a two handed sword. Doing that should be *incredibly* expensive and only come online at a pretty high level.
It has been brought up but in order to pull this off you need to use a bastard sword with exotic proficiency, thankfully Kensai takes care of that for you. There is really no other option.
A magus without spell combat isn't worth playing, so all other options are terrible.
