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I'm not very familiar with the crafting rules either, but I notice that someone has written a guide.
I'm trying to make this class using a wayang for pcs but I had some questions about it.
1) how do you figure out the bonus hp?
2) cause it has no con score is it immune to anything that require a fort save?
3) how would you go about healing this thing?
4)does it gain the construct traits?
1) Bestiary - Creature Types - Construct. Bonus hit points depend on the constructs size category. A small construct would get 10 bonus hit point and a medium would get 20 bonus hit points.
2) Immunities can be found here: Bestiary - Creature Types - Construct. No, but it is close. "Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects, or is harmless)." So they still could be affected by spells like disintegrate.
3) It would not heal naturally. At least it has no innate ability to do so. However at first level it gets Sympathetic Alchemy which should allow the homunculus companion to drink cure light wounds extracts the alchemist makes.
4) I believe it does, even though it doesn't call out that this is a construct with all construct traits it would state if there were any construct traits it would not receive.
And another question can you equip magical items to them? And ummm what is the save for there poison?
Yes you can equip magical items to them although I have no fast link to support that.
Yes, there is a save against the poison. Universal Monster Rules - Poison The DC of the poison would be 10 + 1/2 the construct's HD + 2.
The 2 is from the racial bonus and although it doesn't have a Constitution score, the Construct type notes in this case to treat Constitution as if it were 10 for determining the DC.
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And another question can you equip magical items to them? And ummm what is the save for there poison?It says it is DC based and has a +2 Racial Bonus but they have no Con so if its is based off their con it would be 12, and a fort save obviously. But that is really really weak poison
Would there be anyway to up the poison?
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And another question can you equip magical items to them? And ummm what is the save for there poison?Yes you can equip magical items to them although I have no fast link to support that.
Yes, there is a save against the poison. Universal Monster Rules - Poison The DC of the poison would be 10 + 1/2 the construct's HD + 2.
The 2 is from the racial bonus and although it doesn't have a Constitution score, the Construct type notes in this case to treat Constitution as if it were 10 for determining the DC.
So it poison (once it get it) will be DC 13?
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So it poison (once it get it) will be DC 13?And another question can you equip magical items to them? And ummm what is the save for there poison?Yes you can equip magical items to them although I have no fast link to support that.
Yes, there is a save against the poison. Universal Monster Rules - Poison The DC of the poison would be 10 + 1/2 the construct's HD + 2.
The 2 is from the racial bonus and although it doesn't have a Constitution score, the Construct type notes in this case to treat Constitution as if it were 10 for determining the DC.
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10+2(4th level)+2 Racial bonus
At 4th level it still have 3 HD
So it poison (once it get it) will be DC 13?And another question can you equip magical items to them? And ummm what is the save for there poison?Yes you can equip magical items to them although I have no fast link to support that.
Yes, there is a save against the poison. Universal Monster Rules - Poison The DC of the poison would be 10 + 1/2 the construct's HD + 2.
The 2 is from the racial bonus and although it doesn't have a Constitution score, the Construct type notes in this case to treat Constitution as if it were 10 for determining the DC.
Correct, as the companion gets stronger the DC will improve as well.
where does this archetype come from, is it homebrew, 3pp, or from occult adventures? it sounds like something i would love to play.
where does this archetype come from, is it homebrew, 3pp, or from occult adventures? it sounds like something i would love to play.Occult pg 113
sweet, to bad i am broke as hell right now
I believe the helpful spells are going to be spells that buff the alchemist or companion .
The archetype loses mutagen (unless they take it as a discovery) and bombs. That doesn't leave them many offensive options besides poisoning (although there might be others within discoveries).
For spells, one thing that I'm not 100% about is whether the Sympathetic Alchemy overrides construct immunities. For example, whether or not the construct could benefit from the morale bonuses on an extract of heroism.
Cure spells are an obvious start since it would be how one heals the homunculus.
Just picking a few spells at the first few levels: Shield, Enlarge Person, Bull's Strength, Barkskin, Vomit Swarm, Fly, Beast Shape, Detonate.
It depends on how you build the alchemist and homunculus, but I would imaging they would be both drinking the same types of extracts. Boosts to AC, bonuses to attack, special attack extracts.
There are enough extracts as options to kinda wonder how quickly the pair would burn through their extracts during the day.
Most Constructs impose a Caster Level requirement on their creator that must be met - does this archetype have a way around that? Otherwise you'll be struggling to build any Constructs until you hit level 6 or so.
Most Constructs impose a Caster Level requirement on their creator that must be met - does this archetype have a way around that? Otherwise you'll be struggling to build any Constructs until you hit level 6 or so.
You treat your craft (Alchemy) ranks as caster level.
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I believe the helpful spells are going to be spells that buff the alchemist or companion .
The archetype loses mutagen (unless they take it as a discovery) and bombs. That doesn't leave them many offensive options besides poisoning (although there might be others within discoveries).
Sadly it stats that you can't take the mutagen discovery.
Tho I was wondering.. If you have the money for it are you able to use the homunculus stuff in the alchemy Manuel?
You can as all it requires is the craft construct feat.
But you don't get that playing pfs
*Shrug* If your playing PFS you probably shouldn't play an archetype based around possessing a crafting feat.
I recalled reading the no mutagen note a few days prior, but didn't notice it when I glanced through when posting.
I have no intent on playing this right now in PFS which I have a feeling this will be banned .
Why do you think it would be banned more than other archetypes?
Considering the homunculus customization from Alchemy Manual is legal in pfs, it should work for Prometheans. As it stands it can make the Promethean homunculus as effective as a regular animal companion.
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Don't forget you can also use the construct modifications from Ultimate Magic.
Interestingly it doesn't specifically say you create your homunculus companion it says you gain the service of it at first level so I don't rightfully know if you can modify it like regular a homunculus in the alchemy manual since the modifications say they have to be done when you create it. Also, another interesting tidbit, the promethean alchemists doesn't specifically say in it's Homunculus companion description that they get construct traits like in the construct rider's craft mount ability dose. And if you wanted, not sure it's allowed in fps, you could take spell knowledge from companions and cohorts to gain wizard spells to heal your homunculus companion.