Can I use Renown in a subset community of a city?


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Such as, say, the Ivy District of Absalom?

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That was the intent.

Jason Bulmahn
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That would mean it applies in the entirety of absalom, because

Renown wrote:
This bonus applies only while he is within a number of miles equal to his vigilante level from the community in which he has gained renown.


Covert Operator wrote:

That would mean it applies in the entirety of absalom, because

Renown wrote:
This bonus applies only while he is within a number of miles equal to his vigilante level from the community in which he has gained renown.

That was obviously supposed to cover the local farmlands surrounding a settlement, not different districts within the same city.


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thorin001 wrote:
Covert Operator wrote:

That would mean it applies in the entirety of absalom, because

Renown wrote:
This bonus applies only while he is within a number of miles equal to his vigilante level from the community in which he has gained renown.
That was obviously supposed to cover the local farmlands surrounding a settlement, not different districts within the same city.

No, it basically just makes the intimidate able to affect the districts and local farmlands surrounding the community, but your social identities bonuses are still limited to the area of renown.


Hell's Kitchen!


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Daredevil is pretty much a great example of renown.. and really of this class i think (Better that batman too).

People outside of hellskitchen are still scared of daredevil, but a lot more info in hells kitchen, and mattm urdock has a lot more power in hellskitchen


I watched the Daredevil Netflix series recently, so Hell's Kitchen was on the top of my mind. It seems more appropriate than all of NYC or Gotham.


I think it might also be good to somehow make clear that the scope of renown (particularly as relates to the social identity) is not exactly the same scope from a Real (modern day) World perspective as it is in a Golarion perspective.

For example, the largest city on Golarion is Absalom, at around 300,000 people. That is far smaller than the largest modern day cities (such as Shanghai at 37 million, Istanbul 13 million, Los Angeles 4 million, etc.)

It even falls short of a lot of historical cities, such as Ancient Rome (60 million), Constantinople (1 million), Cuzco (4+ million), etc. Even Tenochtitlan was only about on par with Absalom.

So while by our present-day standards, the numbers may seem low, they are actually proportionately higher by Golarion's standards.

(I do think there is probably a great degree of leeway to allow a more gradual expansion of influence, however.)

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