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I am playing a wyvaran barbarian and I asked my DM since I am a dragon type with regards to species would I be able to use animal growth instead of enlarge person.
His response was that animals are only creatures with a max INT score of two meanwhile anything higher is considered a magical beast and cannot have animal growth used on them. However he did say since I was humanoid, enlarge person could work instead.
So I am trying to find a way to for lack of a better phrase, "hulk out" by making myself much dumber temporarily for my raging so I could possibly stack animal growth and enlarge person.
(yes I realize this may be broken as hell but it would be a fun thing to whip out just for a BBEG)
neither technically work on you, but you're immune to several negative effects as well. that's a fair trade i'd say. if you went with mutagen warrior you'd get alchemist's mutagen, which trades strength for int though as an alchemical bonus.
Dumbing down wont change your type so you'd still be whatever you are now. What you want is the animal soul feat.
I wouldn't poke at that exploit too much. Search for nature oracle awaken shenanigans if you want to get into the rules of it.
The dragon type doesn't change if you lower your intelligence RAW, so I would find some other source of size increases.
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Sure: read a few hundred forum posts...
Ba-dum tss...
You might be able to work something out with the Use Magical Device skill (I hope your barbarian has a high CHA). With that skill you can emulate ability scores, but I don't think it requires you to emulate HIGH ability scores, so you could emulate a low one.
However.
Your character has a "Type". That Type is determined by WHAT you are, not how smart you are. In your case, your Type is dragon. Not humanoid, not animal. Modifying your ability score doesn't change you from dragon to anything else; you're still a dragon.
Try running for congress.
Sadly, most of those guys are smart. Sneaky, deceitful, self-serving smart.
But try listening to their campaign speeches; that's sure to dock you a few IQ points.
Thanks for the reply guys, this is actually my first game so I didn't know if artificial stat modification was even possible. I actually assumed I wouldn't be able to use enlarge person due to as you all put me being a dragon and all, and when I asked about the animal growth he said I could use enlarge person since he thinks wyvarans count as humanoid since it's bipedal even though it is a dragon.
I wasn't about to complain about him allowing that.
See if you can get an "Enlarge Monster" spell created (similar to Charm Person to Charm Monster).
If you can use Dreamscarred Press's psionics, then you could get a dorje (wand) of Expansion and UMD it.
yeah he's only using the core books and some of the advanced books no psionics
There is Animal Soul feat in Advanced Class Guide that allows you to be treated as an animal/animal companion/special mount when you want it (e.g. no vulnerability to effects you wouldn't like to be targeted with) but it requires you having an animal companion or mount feature. You could even keep your Intelligence score intact.
There is Animal Soul feat in Advanced Class Guide that allows you to be treated as an animal/animal companion/special mount when you want it (e.g. no vulnerability to effects you wouldn't like to be targeted with) but it requires you having an animal companion or mount feature. You could even keep your Intelligence score intact.
Weeellll... Our setting is in a harbor town and our DM is going for the noir theme. So we are planning on in essence becoming a fantasy SWAT team. What we've decided is that I am going to act as the chopper/pursuit/breach roles while our tiefling ranger rides on my back, shooting things while I fly (and when convenient I drop from low altitude with my great axe power attack)... what is this mount class feature you are talking about though, it doesn't seem to be a feat of any kind?
"Mount" class feature means you belong to a class that, as one of its class features, it gets a mount (usually much more special than everyone else who just buys a horse). For example, the Cavalier class.
"Mount" class feature means you belong to a class that, as one of its class features, it gets a mount (usually much more special than everyone else who just buys a horse). For example, the Cavalier class.
Would the mad dog archtype work for the barbarian?
"Mount" class feature means you belong to a class that, as one of its class features, it gets a mount (usually much more special than everyone else who just buys a horse). For example, the Cavalier class.Would the mad dog archtype work for the barbarian?
Yes that works
stay drunk all the time =)
A noir with choppers? Clearly I haven't been watching the right noirs.
Thanks for the reply guys, this is actually my first game so I didn't know if artificial stat modification was even possible.
First game, wyvern barbarian. Interesting.
I wasn't about to complain about him allowing that.
Is your GM new as well? Maybe you guys should try something a bit more standard?
Thanks for the reply guys, this is actually my first game so I didn't know if artificial stat modification was even possible.First game, wyvern barbarian. Interesting.
I wasn't about to complain about him allowing that.Is your GM new as well? Maybe you guys should try something a bit more standard?
Eh he's been a few games before. And PF books are the only ones he has.
A noir with choppers? Clearly I haven't been watching the right noirs.
The advantages of being able to fly @ lvl 1 sir to pursue/ambush the baddies
Press X for fall from the sky and cleave a bandit in two with greataxe.
Press Y to equip The Great Pipe of Justice for nonlethal damage
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A noir with choppers? Clearly I haven't been watching the right noirs.The advantages of being able to fly @ lvl 1 sir to pursue/ambush the baddies
Press X for fall from the sky and cleave a bandit in two with greataxe.
Press Y to equip The Great Pipe of Justice for nonlethal damage
Are we still talking about Pathfinder?
Are we still talking about Pathfinder?
The advantages of being able to fly @ lvl 1 sir to pursue/ambush the baddies
Press X for fall from the sky and cleave a bandit in two with greataxe.
Press Y to equip The Great Pipe of Justice for nonlethal damage
Yeah wyvarans from advanced race guide are a playable race http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/advanced-races-11-20-r p/wyvaran-17-rp
Just dare to be stupid.
Just dare to be stupid.
Oh I do. Without realizing it IC. At level 1 I got separated from the group chasing after a kyton augur. That was a helluva time. Couldn't hit the damn thing. However we wouldn't have seen it unless I had flown up onto the rooftops