Does being affected by Raging Song count as Raging?


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Does being under the effect of the Rage spell or a Skald's Raging Song count as Raging for the purposes of using feats such as Amplified Rage or Warleader's Rage?

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PolydactylPolymath wrote:
Does being under the effect of the Rage spell or a Skald's Raging Song count as Raging for the purposes of using feats such as Amplified Rage or Warleader's Rage?

You can't use temporary effects to qualify for feats.


No. Skald's Raging Song does not grant the Rage class ability.

EDIT: Though you may qualify for the feats anyways while being affected by Skald's Raging Song. However, this line, I would say, excludes their use anyway: 'However, inspired rage does not allow the ally to activate abilities dependent on other rage class abilities, such as rage powers, blood casting, or bloodrager bloodlines; the ally must activate her own rage class ability in order to use these features.'


I assume the OP is asking for the teamwork feat.

No. You don't have rage as a class ability. While it counts as rage it's not your class granting it.

That being said if you took a level of barbarian you could grab that feat and have the skald rage for you.


I'm not asking about qualifying for feats, I'm asking about using feats. For example, a Barbarian/Skald with Amplified Rage sharing the feat with an ally via a Ring of Tactical Precision. Does the Skald's Inspired Rage allow the ally to activate the feat?

Edit: Or a Bloodrager/Skald with Amplified Rage and a Valet familiar?


Neither the Ring user nor the Valet Familiar care about teamwork feat prerequisites, only the person sharing the feat needs to be able to qualify. To answer your question, a Half Orc Skald with Inspire Rage should more than qualify for Amplified Rage:

"If an ally has her own rage class ability (such as barbarian's rage, bloodrager's bloodrage, or skald's inspired rage)...,"


Yes, a raging song is a rage

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