what's the best healer?


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I want to make a character that can heal the best in or out of combat. Would cleric be best?


Lots of opinions on that.

I think cleric is a fine choice for a healer.
I like to do dwarf, taking heavy armor prof to wear stoneplate, and selective channel as my first two feats....


I like the Life Oracle. The ability to life link to people and tansfer damage from them to you at range means you can use one larger heal instead of multiple smaller ones.

And again, ranged heals without any kind of reach metamagic.


Clerics are great but I agree with life oracle if you're really set on being the best possible healer. In addition to what was already mentioned, more spell slots than a cleric for spontaneous casting and despite the fact that they only get 1 plus charisma modifier channels a day it shouldn't be much of an issue since charisma is their main casting stat.


And if you're going full on dedicated healer, you should have some spare feats to pick up extra channeling.


Out of combat it would be a matter of who had the most channels or similar resources. For that, without multiclassing, I would say a hospitalier paladin because he has two different resources for healing built into the class, both scale with charisma stat, lay hands already increases in quantity and quality for free, and both channel and hands can be further supported by feats, racial favored class bonuses and so on.

For in battle healing you would be hard pressed to beat either a life oracle OR a cleric turned envoy of balance prestige class. The oracle is arguably the only healer that is good enough at it to do it in battle. The envoy is far weaker at healing but a least she can deal channel damage to her enemies in the same action ANd could potentially double channel twice in one turn.


Personally, I prefer the Cleric with Healing and Lust Domains.

Healing Domain makes you treat all cure spells as if empowered, and lust domain allows you to talk with a nice soothing voice as you dish out some sexual healing. Definitely the "best" form of healing.
Do add in perform(singing) though if you can spend a skill point or two.

In pure efficiency though, i'm also with the life oracle.


Life oracle definitely, especially if you can grab a favored class bonus to jack up the effective level of your channel. Aasimars and Ifrits both have that, to my knowledge.


Aasimar life oracle with the FCB to increase your channel energy revelation. Take Dual Cursed for damage prevention via misfortune, or take Spirit Guide for an expanded list of spells known. Bring along a few scrolls of various Remove spells and a Mnemonic Vestment, and you can cure status effects on the spot whereas a cleric will have to wait until the next day to prepare an appropriate cure for an unforeseen affliction.


Awesome, that life Oracle build sounds terrific, thanks everyone. Are there any other must have feats, or complimentary equipment out of the norm I should get?


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If you are looking for raw hit points cured, it is hard to beat the Oradin: Paladin / Life Oracle. They can do efficient in-combat healing with the combination of life-link and swift action lay on hands to self.

If you want other forms of healing, a positive energy Cleric still has the advantage being a prepared caster with just about every spell for removing conditions.

Dark Archive

If 3pp stuff is on the table, the Vitalist is an amazing group healer who can both heal and still do other stuff at the same time.

If not, the Oradin (Life Oracle/Paladin multiclass) is also an amazing healer who can spend most of his time beating the stuffing out of the bad guys.


All you need is selective channel, maybe extra channel, and a +6 charisma headband. Conservatively that should equate to about a 10-12 channels at 50% better than cleric. Not bad. You just need to figure what else you want to do.


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If you worship Pharasma, get Fateful Channel at level 5.

If you don't worship Pharasma, stop not worshipping Pharasma, and worship Pharasma!


The only 3pp I have available is 1001 spells, but thanks. Also, following pharasma also now suddenly seems like a great idea. :)


The dwarven deity Magrim also qualifies for fateful channel.

Grand Lodge

Pure healer - low level Life Oracle, High Level Cleric

Personal Favorite healer - passive healing with ability to do a lot more with other actions and plenty of extra healing. Life Oracle/Hospitalier Paladin - 2 channel pools, lay on hands, and if you go for Ultimate Mercy Raise Dead pretty early (you can do earlier with other builds but this one can get there around 10th level)


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If you worship Pharasma, get Fateful Channel at level 5.

If you don't worship Pharasma, stop not worshipping Pharasma, and worship Pharasma!

I dont , I might prefer to worship someone like Desna and grab Liberation Channel instead. If you sink your FCB into revelation advancement you can qualify for it at level 9, earlier if you buy the Phylactery (although you are almost certainly better off with a Charisma Headband).


Wow, that's rough, those are both really good...


Are the any feats that add static bonuses to channeling? Like +1/dice? Or something?

Grand Lodge

Ishpumalibu wrote:
I want to make a character that can heal the best in or out of combat. Would cleric be best?

What do you define 'healing' as? Just HP damage, or other things?

This is my own white mage character.

Dark Archive

You can use fey foundling (+2 per dice but only for yourself) in combination with shield other/lifelink.

My own PFS-Healer is a dualcursed Aasimar Lifeoracle (FCB for channel) with Fey foundling/Misfortune (rerolls)/Battelcry (More rerolls AFTER the save is failed)/Fateful chanel. This gets quite asurd when i can heal the whole group, get them to roll twice (on one roll) and if they fail a save they can reroll if they have failed it. Misfortune is for Critnegation or forcing to reroll 1s on skills.

So in my opinion there is no better Healer than an lifeoracle because you dont only heal but also improve the saves of your allys massively and ist very nice to say to an enemy who critted "Reroll"


Mainly being a hp battery I suppose, but curing status effects is a bonus. Someone suggested the glorious heat feat for healing. Are there lots of good fire spells to utilize this on the Oracle?

Grand Lodge

The blackened oracle curse adds burning hands, scorching ray, wall of fire, and delayed blast fireball to your spells known, which would give an offensive option that would work well with glorious heat.


I feel like I should mention the Life Shaman here; whether or not it's better than the Life Oracle is arguable, but I do like the advantage of the familiar. If you've ever had one of those instances where someone died because you didn't have the action economy to give them a Breath of Life scroll fast enough, your familiar has got you covered.

Dark Archive

I was super hyped about the Life Shaman for possible Dwarven Warpriest/Shaman psuedo-Oradin shenanigans, but their Life Link isn't nearly as good. :(


life shaman isn't bad but its not in the league of hospitalier or life oracle. shaman brings other things it should pursue.


I really haven't even looked over the shaman, I'm not sure why, I'll look at it tonight too. It seems like there's lots of ways to go. I'm leaning away from paladin though, I'm feeling like being true neutral.


Ishpumalibu wrote:
Mainly being a hp battery I suppose, but curing status effects is a bonus. Someone suggested the glorious heat feat for healing. Are there lots of good fire spells to utilize this on the Oracle?

There's an entire Flame mystery.


Envoy of balance cleric of Pharisma with death and life domains it is :) true neutral, second best healing, negative energy at the same time to hurt foes, superior feats as others linked and so on. Can't beat her except MAYBE Feronia, Dispaters second wife. She is true neutral and has fire and protection domains if one is inclined to do things a little differently.


Thanks guys :)


I pretty much agree with everyone here. The best melee/healer is the paladin/oracle, lay on hand as a free action as you heal everyone with life link cant be beat, except you know that lawful good thing. A pure life oracle cant be beat in pure heals. But I'm sold on the shaman, it takes a few levels to get moving but when it does it is a beast. The healing hex with the spell hex vulnerability just gives you more heals in the day. Pick up evil eye and misfortune for debuffing. Why heal when the guy needs to make two rolls and pick the lowest? Whatever spells you are missing the FCB can usually fill in and by level 8 you can pull a spell or two from the wizard's list. I skipped the witch doctor for hexes but getting additional channels (at -3 level though) just gives you even more heals. I actually decided against it since I felt I had too much heals :)


The spell Hex Vulnerability makes the Witch's healing hexes quite good at HP healing. If you have many "pets" and/or a large party, the hex scales. While a cleric's channels also handle large numbers, it is cheaper to increase the number of spells than channels. They have access to most status removal spells also.

At 20th level, with Major Healing hex, a Witch can get about 800hp of healing with that 1st level spell.

/cevah

Dark Archive

With a life oracle, I prefer to hold off on life link until, at least, level 5. There are better revelations at lower levels. Life link is great from that point on.


Those all seem like great options, it's definitely hard to choose.

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