Is anything mythic pfs legal?


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I'm looking specifically at champion. Is this a legal option to add to a character or not. Could not find anything in additional resources about mythic stuff. If it is, how does mythic stuff work?

Scarab Sages

Anything Mythic is not legal without a chronicle sheet or boon that unlocks it.

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

Mythic tiers add a whole new level of power to a character, and they are not appropriate for use in the vast majority of Pathfinder Society Organized Play. As a result, the book just does not appear on the Additional Resources page. That said, there is at least one instance of mythic play in the campaign, though that's as a temporary feature.

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John Compton wrote:

Mythic tiers add a whole new level of power to a character, and they are not appropriate for use in the vast majority of Pathfinder Society Organized Play. As a result, the book just does not appear on the Additional Resources page. That said, there is at least one instance of mythic play in the campaign, though that's as a temporary feature.

And that remains one of my very favorite scenarios -- to play *and* to run.

I hope we see more of it one day (presumably in a similarly limited context).

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pH unbalanced wrote:


And that remains one of my very favorite scenarios -- to play *and* to run.

I hope we see more of it one day (presumably in a similarly limited context).

The people I played it with also had a very good time and I personally would like to see more of it but certainly only temporary.

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I used my Mythic Tier to battle a CR 16 in a tier 5-9 scenario!

It was EPIC!

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There is a scenario where you can get a mythic bane dagger.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

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One special also features mythic rules, but is only used by enemies.

Scarab Sages 5/5

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Muser wrote:
One special also features mythic rules, but is only used by enemies.

Actually, there are multiple scenarios where enemies use mythic rules.

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Yeah, that's why I wrote "special" and not "scenario".

Spoiler:
Only Siege of the Diamond City has mythic monsters.

Silver Crusade

Well I guess that throws my ff dragoon based character thought out the window. Only option now is to take actual dragoon and "Jump" from the back of an axe beak "Chocobo"

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John Compton wrote:

Mythic tiers add a whole new level of power to a character, and they are not appropriate for use in the vast majority of Pathfinder Society Organized Play. As a result, the book just does not appear on the Additional Resources page. That said, there is at least one instance of mythic play in the campaign, though that's as a temporary feature.

John, I have mentioned this on this subject before, but have never really asked:

Would it be possible to sanction Wrath only for campaign mode play? In that case, it's just going to be a constant group of players (like it would be for any other campaign-mode AP.) Would it be possible to do that, for that express purpose, and for no other part of PFS?

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Mark Stratton wrote:
John Compton wrote:

Mythic tiers add a whole new level of power to a character, and they are not appropriate for use in the vast majority of Pathfinder Society Organized Play. As a result, the book just does not appear on the Additional Resources page. That said, there is at least one instance of mythic play in the campaign, though that's as a temporary feature.

John, I have mentioned this on this subject before, but have never really asked:

Would it be possible to sanction Wrath only for campaign mode play? In that case, it's just going to be a constant group of players (like it would be for any other campaign-mode AP.) Would it be possible to do that, for that express purpose, and for no other part of PFS?

I'd also advocate for a campaign mode-only PFS sanction of Wrath of the Righteous. I think that the main challenge would be constructing the chronicle sheets. I haven't read the AP, so I'm not sure how much mythic treasure there is and how much would/should be added to the chronicle sheets, or what special boons might be added.

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Michael Eshleman wrote:


I'd also advocate for a campaign mode-only PFS sanction of Wrath of the Righteous. I think that the main challenge would be constructing the chronicle sheets. I haven't read the AP, so I'm not sure how much mythic treasure there is and how much would/should be added to the chronicle sheets, or what special boons might be added.

I really, really, really do not want anything mythic leaking into the regular campaign (the little that has leaked is already too much IMO). Which means that the chronicle sheets would have to be very boring or I (and at least some others I know) would be unhappy. And I expect the really bland sheets that would make me happy would make many of the receivers unhappy.

probably more work and trouble than its worth.

Grand Lodge

Jeremy Coppersmith wrote:
I'm looking specifically at champion. Is this a legal option to add to a character or not. Could not find anything in additional resources about mythic stuff. If it is, how does mythic stuff work?

If you can't find it in Additional Resources, or Core Assumptions, than it's NOT legal. It really is that simple an answer.

Nothing in the mythic books is legal for PFS,

Spoiler:
UNLESS you're playing Destiny in the Sands Part 3
, and only those mechanics specifically listed as legal for that scenario are legal FOR THAT SCENARIO ONLY.

Scarab Sages

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LazarX wrote:
Jeremy Coppersmith wrote:
I'm looking specifically at champion. Is this a legal option to add to a character or not. Could not find anything in additional resources about mythic stuff. If it is, how does mythic stuff work?

If you can't find it in Additional Resources, or Core Assumptions, than it's NOT legal. It really is that simple an answer.

Nothing in the mythic books is legal for PFS, UNLESS you're playing

Spoiler:
Destiny in the Sands Part 3
, and only those mechanics specifically listed as legal for that scenario are legal FOR THAT SCENARIO ONLY.

Dude, use spoiler tags for scenario names.

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pauljathome wrote:
Michael Eshleman wrote:


I'd also advocate for a campaign mode-only PFS sanction of Wrath of the Righteous. I think that the main challenge would be constructing the chronicle sheets. I haven't read the AP, so I'm not sure how much mythic treasure there is and how much would/should be added to the chronicle sheets, or what special boons might be added.

I really, really, really do not want anything mythic leaking into the regular campaign (the little that has leaked is already too much IMO). Which means that the chronicle sheets would have to be very boring or I (and at least some others I know) would be unhappy. And I expect the really bland sheets that would make me happy would make many of the receivers unhappy.

probably more work and trouble than its worth.

Not everyone has the same ideas about what is badwrongfun. You are welcome to avoid any scenarios whose chronicle sheets are too interesting for your PFS experience.

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Michael Eshleman wrote:
Mark Stratton wrote:
John Compton wrote:

Mythic tiers add a whole new level of power to a character, and they are not appropriate for use in the vast majority of Pathfinder Society Organized Play. As a result, the book just does not appear on the Additional Resources page. That said, there is at least one instance of mythic play in the campaign, though that's as a temporary feature.

John, I have mentioned this on this subject before, but have never really asked:

Would it be possible to sanction Wrath only for campaign mode play? In that case, it's just going to be a constant group of players (like it would be for any other campaign-mode AP.) Would it be possible to do that, for that express purpose, and for no other part of PFS?

I'd also advocate for a campaign mode-only PFS sanction of Wrath of the Righteous. I think that the main challenge would be constructing the chronicle sheets. I haven't read the AP, so I'm not sure how much mythic treasure there is and how much would/should be added to the chronicle sheets, or what special boons might be added.

Well, I wouldn't mind giving characters a single permanent mythic tier at seeker level (I don't know what the level ranges for Wrath of the Rightous would be, but if it's about the same as other APs, book 4 could be something like 13-15 or 14-16).

You'd still have the first three books that wouldn't grant anything mythic, but maybe those chronicles could get some almost-mythic boon.

I do agree with the opinion that permanent mythic abilities shouldn't appear in regular PFS play (aka levels 1-12).

Grand Lodge 4/5

Game Master wrote:
pauljathome wrote:
Michael Eshleman wrote:


I'd also advocate for a campaign mode-only PFS sanction of Wrath of the Righteous. I think that the main challenge would be constructing the chronicle sheets. I haven't read the AP, so I'm not sure how much mythic treasure there is and how much would/should be added to the chronicle sheets, or what special boons might be added.

I really, really, really do not want anything mythic leaking into the regular campaign (the little that has leaked is already too much IMO). Which means that the chronicle sheets would have to be very boring or I (and at least some others I know) would be unhappy. And I expect the really bland sheets that would make me happy would make many of the receivers unhappy.

probably more work and trouble than its worth.

Not everyone has the same ideas about what is badwrongfun. You are welcome to avoid any scenarios whose chronicle sheets are too interesting for your PFS experience.

I suspect it is more that he would have to participate with home-game players, who also play PFS, who would have those chronicles and items on PFS PCs he either has to play with, or GM for.

To be honest, there should be a middle ground available, probably, like the final boon from the scenario mentioned previously, for a limited use (1-3 uses) access to Paragon Surge or other minor mythic ability.

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Game Master wrote:
You are welcome to avoid any scenarios whose chronicle sheets are too interesting for your PFS experience

Actually, you can't avoid them when another player brings them to your table. PFS is a shared campaign, and that means that certain options aren't going to work. Mythic is one of them.

Grand Lodge

"] Well, I wouldn't mind giving characters a single permanent mythic tier at seeker level (I don't know what the level ranges for Wrath of the Rightous would be, but if it's about the same as other APs, book 4 could be something like 13-15 or 14-16).

Having played Mythic in Wrath of the Righteous, it falls upon me to point out how extremely a bad idea it would be to give PFS players access to mythic powers. Bringing mythic at higher levels doesn't make the problem less, it makes it worse because of the force multiplier nature of mythic power. Keep mythic where it belongs.... on the opposition the High Level PC's must fight.

Shadow Lodge 5/5

I have run the scenario mentioned previously ...

and I personally watched 1 PC Wreck the entire scenario up until the final fight it was a Heavens Oracle with Mythic Color Spray (60 ft Cone)

Encounter 2 - 1 round ... Failed save

Encounter 3 - 1 or 2 rounds - 2x failed saves from 60 ft away (those of you who know this scenario know how signifigant that is)

I agree - leave Mythic where it belongs, IMHO it has no place in PFS no matter where its placed

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