Swashbuckler Finesse, Panache (regaining it), a few deeds, and several other class features all have the phrase "light or one-handed piercing weapon" as a qualifier.
Should this be read as:
(light or one-handed) piercing weapon
or as:
(light) or (one-handed piercing) weapon
As an example, could a Swashbuckler regain Panache destroying a skeleton with a light mace?
Any links to playtest discussion, developer comments, etc would be greatly appreciated. I've already checked the ACG FAQ.
Piercing weapons.
It becomes more apparent when you consider all of the options available to a Swashbuckler to modify that selection.
Could you please give an example?
Instead of a Mace, grab a Morning Star ;-)
So Morning Star for Skeletons, is there an answer for Zombies?
Since Dagger is P or S, I would assume the bonus would only apply when using it as a Piercing weapon in which case the Zombie DR would still apply.
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The OP mentioned some deeds, so it's worth mentioning. The problem is the weapon needs to be P and S, not P or S. Natural weapons are the only example of a weapon that is P and S at the same time. They can regain panache, be used with swashbuckler finesse, and so on, but precise strike is a big loss for them.
So as a Kitsune Swashbuckler, I could finesse my bite. I couldn't add the precision damage for the Precise Strike deed.
Seems the text about natural weapons is specifically for that deed, not all the other class abilities.
Yuck! I really am not sure I want to bite a zombie....
I would like to point out if you take the feat Weapon Versatility that any Light or One-handed weapon becomes a option for Swashbucklers, at least according to this thread James Jacob has were he said this.
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I would like to point out if you take the feat Weapon Versatility that any Light or One-handed weapon becomes a option for Swashbucklers, at least according to this thread James Jacob has were he said this.
While I have nothing but respect for JJ, anything he posts rules-wise is not an indication of what the rules are, but just an example of how he would run it in his own game.
In this case, if you use weapon versatility to change the damage type from piercing to slashing, the weapon is not a piercing weapon for the duration of the attack.
The other problem being that it appears to be a human only feat.
The other problem being that it appears to be a human only feat.
Weapon Versatility is not human only (it is from the Undead Slayer's Handbook)
Martial Versatility is human only.
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JJ was talking about changing to piercing, actually.I would like to point out if you take the feat Weapon Versatility that any Light or One-handed weapon becomes a option for Swashbucklers, at least according to this thread James Jacob has were he said this.While I have nothing but respect for JJ, anything he posts rules-wise is not an indication of what the rules are, but just an example of how he would run it in his own game.
In this case, if you use weapon versatility to change the damage type from piercing to slashing, the weapon is not a piercing weapon for the duration of the attack.
In that case, it would work with all the deeds, yes. But you aren't then bypassing any DR/Slashing, so it's a wash.
In that case, it would work with all the deeds, yes. But you aren't then bypassing any DR/Slashing, so it's a wash.JJ was talking about changing to piercing, actually.I would like to point out if you take the feat Weapon Versatility that any Light or One-handed weapon becomes a option for Swashbucklers, at least according to this thread James Jacob has were he said this.While I have nothing but respect for JJ, anything he posts rules-wise is not an indication of what the rules are, but just an example of how he would run it in his own game.
In this case, if you use weapon versatility to change the damage type from piercing to slashing, the weapon is not a piercing weapon for the duration of the attack.
No but it lets you choose, you come against a foe who has Slashing DR and you switch to it and fight them, it makes sense as it is forcing you to fight outside of your normal style so you would be less efficient.
You just need to carry a Hurlbat (P and S) and a Morningstar (B and P).
You just need to carry a Hurlbat (P and S) and a Morningstar (B and P).
What is a Hurlbat and where does it come from? I don't recall a weapon by that name.
Ranged tactics toolbox. It suffers from chakram disease though. It's a ranged weapon that can be used in melee, but it doesn't specify if it's light or one handed.
Also, like a chakram, if you use it in melee without heavy armor, you risk hurting yourself.
For the Swashbuckler though, it doesn't matter if it's light or one handed. The main issue is the -1 to hit in melee.
Myself, I'd count it as light since it says it's a "throwing axe", and normal ones are light.
On hurting yourself without heavy armor, I suggest taking the Chillblight Emissary trait as the 1 point of damage you might take is negated by the DR 1/cold iron.