All of the above.
But really it depends on what kind of wizard you'll want to be. A blaster? a controller? a summoner? etc...?
probably wouldn't be a bad idea to grab everything that requires spells or caster level. haha. Don't forget you can take the wizard discovery things with feats, if you want some of those and don't want to wait.
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Is wizard set in stone? With a generous set of stats like you have listed and all those extra feats, I'd be tempted to play something more MAD and more feat-starved than your average wizard. An evangelist cleric with a reach weapon would bring a lot to the group IMHO, particularly considering that you already have several arcane casters but no divine caster at all.
have spell focus in good schools, ALL THE SCHOOLS, and pick up all the summoning boosting feats. toughness, weapon focus ray! haha.
Kingmaker has more downtime than most adventure paths, so item creation feats are worthwhile.
I would be tempted to play an evocation blaster wizard and go nuts with metamagic feats. Get perfected spell and preferred spell.
Having played a blaster wizard in an adventure path, I found that for some encounters I did very little beyond the first round of combat. I was there to tilt things in favour of my party, then can stand back and let the martials clean up.
Wizards have a lot of utility to contribute to the party. I love Phantom Chariot.
I second the idea of grabbing item creation feats:Kingmaker has tons of downtime, so the party will adore you for multiplying everyone WBL.
I'm not very familiar with it, but could all these feats be used to make an effective Mystic Theurge? You lack a divine caster, and you say you have good system mastery, so it may be neat to go down that path.
PS: don't worry, you won't steal the spotlight: you're in a party with a synthesist and that 41 RP monstruosity of the Drow Noble. ;)
You have enough feats for semi-optimized blasting and control.
Go Sorcerer, pump all your extra Feats into Expanded Arcana, pretend you're a Wizard with extra spells per day.
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This is something that begs for arcanist, witch, or shaman. You're going to have so many feats that being able to take Extra Hex/Exploit will be a fantastic option. Shaman are basically as versatile as a wizard on the divine side, while an arcanist will be able to go crafting crazy and never run out of points.
For your other party members, try talking the fighter into a different class. Everybody getting so many feats is going to make the fighter seem pretty lame. For the rogue I would suggest investigator. That would even let him and the alchemist swap notes.
Where did you get that impression of gishes? They are generally stronger and more useful to the party than typical fighting classes, not weaker. There is no particular reason your party should suffer unusually from PC deaths, though a random crit is always possible. A synthesist, in particular, is especially tanky if built reasonably competently.
With so many combat characters, I'd be VERY tempted to play a bard.
The beauty part is, with that many feats you can actually be extremely effective with the otherwise-prohibitively costly whip feats. (Greater/Improved) Whip Mastery, Improved (Trip/Disarm/Grapple), Weapon Focus, all that jazz.
I like the sorcerer idea with Expanded Arcana as well, just make sure to take mostly different spells from the other guy and you'll be fine.
You could do an Arabian bard. Just sayin'.
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I have seen this sort of thing before, we had a new DM running Kingmaker and he wanted to make it extreme … He had us make Gestalt classes and then added Mythic … It got pretty sic and he gave up as we were too powerful for the module.
With all of those options I would make a combination caster, a controller with the ability to be a blaster too.
I would drop a level of Wizard and take a level of sorcerer, Crossblooded, Draconic/Primal .. check out the blaster Wizard build advice which is available on here somewhere. Then each extra feat I would build towards item creation, spell focus Conj and Augment Summons …
Usually you can do one well and the others ok .. You should be able to control the battlefield well and blow stuff up too very nicely … As well as being the Swiss army knife of the party with your scribe scroll and eventually Craft wondrous etc
Also check out Inner Sea Magic if you have access to it. You can mitigate up to three levels of your wizard class so caster levels wise you can finish up casting as a 20th lvl wizard and a 4th level sorcerer. Your element of choice spells will do +2 points of damage per die and you can get some pretty nice damage when you mix in some of the higher feats … Like a free Empower or Maximize with the Spell Perfection feat.
You have a nice opportunity, don’t waste it …
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Go Sorcerer, pump all your extra Feats into Expanded Arcana, pretend you're a Wizard with extra spells per day.
This! Although that lizzardfolk is already doing the same thing.
1 Toughness, Improved Initiative, Scribe Scroll
2 Spell Focus (Conjuration)
3 Craft Wondrous Item
4 Augment Summoning
5 Greater Spell Focus (Conjuration), Persistent Spell
6 Additional Traits
7 Dazing Spell
8 Leadership
9 Craft Rod
10 Opposition Research, Spell Penetration
11 Quicken Spell
12 Greater Spell Penetration
Something like that would be my initial thoughts. I would probably grab an initiative trait and something character related at first and pick up Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter with additional traits once I found a spell to focus on. The teleportation subschool is very nice for getting away.
]Therein lies the problem; these characters will, more than likely, not have the benefit of a competent build. More likely, they will have feats and spell selections that are unfocused and that ignore/overlook synergy.
At low levels, when spell slots are few, it's very hard for a spellcaster/turned fighter to be useful for very long......,"spells are nice but, three feet of steel never fizzles",....
Don't worry about it. A synthesist doesn't need to pick good spells or feats to kick ass in combat. It helps, but they'll be just fine even with 0 feats and 0 spells (just playing at a lower tier). Much more important are the evolutions he picks, but even if those choices are terrible, he'll still have more HP+temp HP than anyone else in the party.
A mounted+charging summoner can be quite effective, but does require a bit more player skill to pull off, and the player won't be nearly as tanky. Overall though, I still wouldn't worry about it much. Kingmaker can be successfully completed with a party of 4 using 15 point-buy and no extra feats. Even if they don't optimize at all, your party will significantly outpower most encounters. There is no reason to believe you will experience any more than the "usual" number of deaths, i.e. very few barring really bad luck or really bad tactical choices. In other words, play whatever you think would be fun and don't stress about it too much.
If you ARE worried about party survivability, the best thing you can do as a wizard or sorcerer is make sure you have a few good battlefield control spells ready.
Take Dimensional Agility and move, cast, move and you can use shift on either side of it.
This does not work. Using Shift ends your turn, full stop. Dimensional Agility does not give any benefit to Shift.
So I guess you could move [move action], cast a spell [standard action], and then shift away from danger [swift action], right?Take Dimensional Agility and move, cast, move and you can use shift on either side of it.This does not work. Using Shift ends your turn, full stop. Dimensional Agility does not give any benefit to Shift.
Yes, that order works. In that case, the only downside is you can't use immediate actions (or make AoOs but that's not really relevant for a wizard) until your next turn.
Take Dimensional Agility and move, cast, move and you can use shift on either side of it.This does not work. Using Shift ends your turn, full stop. Dimensional Agility does not give any benefit to Shift.
"Shift (Su): At 1st level, you can teleport to a nearby space as a swift action as if using dimension door. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity. You must be able to see the space that you are moving into. You cannot take other creatures with you when you use this ability (except for familiars). You can move 5 feet for every two wizard levels you possess (minimum 5 feet). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Intelligence modifier."
Not seeing where it ends your turn.
"Shift (Su): At 1st level, you can teleport to a nearby space as a swift action as if using dimension door. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity. You must be able to see the space that you are moving into. You cannot take other creatures with you when you use this ability (except for familiars). You can move 5 feet for every two wizard levels you possess (minimum 5 feet). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Intelligence modifier."
Not seeing where it ends your turn.
You instantly transfer yourself from your current location to any other spot within range. You always arrive at exactly the spot desired - whether by simply visualizing the area or by stating direction. After using this spell, you can't take any other actions until your next turn. You can bring along objects as long as their weight doesn't exceed your maximum load. You may also bring one additional willing Medium or smaller creature (carrying gear or objects up to its maximum load) or its equivalent per three caster levels. A Large creature counts as two Medium creatures, a Huge creature counts as two Large creatures, and so forth. All creatures to be transported must be in contact with one another, and at least one of those creatures must be in contact with you.
If you arrive in a place that is already occupied by a solid body, you and each creature traveling with you take 1d6 points of damage and are shunted to a random open space on a suitable surface within 100 feet of the intended location.
If there is no free space within 100 feet, you and each creature traveling with you take an additional 2d6 points of damage and are shunted to a free space within 1,000 feet. If there is no free space within 1,000 feet, you and each creature traveling with you take an additional 4d6 points of damage and the spell simply fails.
And while the feat Dimensional Agility can let you act after casting Dimension Door or using Abundant Step, it does not allow you to act after using Shift.
And while the feat Dimensional Agility can let you act after casting Dimension Door or using Abundant Step, it does not allow you to act after using Shift.
I...don't think you're correct.
Shift is, for all intents and purposes, Dimension Door (with a few specific limitations that override the general rule). If you're going to apply the limitations of Dimension Door, you need to apply the benefits of Dimension Door as well, because it applies no specific clause that says "This is Dimension Door except where it interacts with Feats that augment Dimension Door".
Personally: I would build a conjuration focused wizard with a penchant for calling denizens of the desert: djinn, air elementals, etc.That certainly fits the concept.
I'll look into what creatures are made available and that fit his native homeland.....they might not end up being the most powerful creatures to summon, but role-play has to fit in somewhere, right?
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I...don't think you're correct.
Shift is, for all intents and purposes, Dimension Door (with a few specific limitations that override the general rule). If you're going to apply the limitations of Dimension Door, you need to apply the benefits of Dimension Door as well,
What other benefits?
(that aren't already explicitly excluded by the shift ability text)