ACG: Sacred Fist: Blessed Fortitude Question


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Silver Crusade

Blessed Fortitude (Su): At 3rd level, a sacred fist can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with help from his deity. If he succeeds at a Fortitude saving throw against an attack that has a reduced effect on a successful save, he instead avoids the effect entirely. A helpless sacred fist does not gain the benefit of the blessed fortitude ability. This ability replaces the bonus feat gained at 3rd level.

Does this mean that with Any attack that has any sort of "Reduced Effect on a successful save" I have the chance of avoiding it Entirely?

That seems... rather powerful.


If by "any attack", you are referring to effects tied to Fortitude saves, then yes. If by "any attack" you mean ones tied to Reflex or Will, then no.

For example, if you're subject to a ki shout spell and make your saving throw, you take no damage instead of half.

It's basically Evasion for Fortitude. Is it powerful? Yes, but so is Evasion, and they serve largely different purposes.

Silver Crusade

Aaahh okay. Still pretty awesome!

Silver Crusade

Battle Cupcake wrote:

If by "any attack", you are referring to effects tied to Fortitude saves, then yes. If by "any attack" you mean ones tied to Reflex or Will, then no.

For example, if you're subject to a ki shout spell and make your saving throw, you take no damage instead of half.

It's basically Evasion for Fortitude. Is it powerful? Yes, but so is Evasion, and they serve largely different purposes.

Does this mean that with a couple of Monk levels... Evasion and Blessed Fortitude could work alongside each other?


Nothing says it couldn't. Alternatively, you could grab a Ring of Evasion and avoid multiclassing.

Silver Crusade

aceDiamond wrote:
Nothing says it couldn't. Alternatively, you could grab a Ring of Evasion and avoid multiclassing.

Oh you just saved me an archetype! Fantastic :D


Kazumetsa_Raijin wrote:
aceDiamond wrote:
Nothing says it couldn't. Alternatively, you could grab a Ring of Evasion and avoid multiclassing.
Oh you just saved me an archetype! Fantastic :D

Stil worth dipping monk MOMS.

Have pummeling style and dragon style up at the same time :)


bumping this instead of starting a new thread. playing a sacred fist in a game and this came up. if I make the fort save on a snowball do I avoid all the damage aswell?


vhok wrote:
bumping this instead of starting a new thread. playing a sacred fist in a game and this came up. if I make the fort save on a snowball do I avoid all the damage aswell?

No, you still take the damage. If the spell did less damage if you made the fortitude save (like the spell Ray of Enfeeblement does for ability penalty), you would avoid the damage. Snowball does damage and then allows a save to avoid being staggered. If you became dazed instead of staggered when you make the save, you'd avoid the daze with Blessed Fortitude. Damage still happens


it doesn't really do much then. less than 20 spells that it would do more then making the save would do.

Scarab Sages

Some of those spells are very bad though. Horrid wilting, phantasmagoric killer, psychic crush, Calcific touch... frankly, I'd rather have it than evasion. Evasion is more common, but reflex saves are usually just damage. Fort can be death or damaged. Ability damage, and so on.

Grand Lodge

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After having a character get hit with 3 Bone Shatters in one round, the value of this ability became more apparent.

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