The Exchange boons for Sason 5

[Kristen Gipson]

I know that the Exchange is taking the place of Qadira and Sczarni. My question is since season 5 does not have faction missions, but does have special boons that can be earned if you play the appropriate scenario and meet the requirements, do the Exchange characters receive boons from both Qadira and Sczarni scenarios? If it is a scenario that supports both factions, i.e. "The Stranger Within", and the complete the requirements, do they receive both boons?

I have not notice anything in the new guide that states how this is handled.

If they are able to receive boons from both factions, this seems incredibly unfair to the rest of the factions. They have half as many opportunities to receive boons.

[Iammars]

Guide, pg. 18 wrote:

Liberty’s Edge faction PCs qualify for Andoran faction

vanities and mission boons available in past seasons.
Likewise, Dark Archive faction PCs qualify for Cheliax
rewards, Scarab Sages as Osirion, The Exchange as
Qadira, and Sovereign Court as Taldor. Without a boon
that states otherwise, a PC cannot earn Sczarni vanities
or boons.

[Kristen Gipson]

Thanks, apparently I skimmed over that and I kept focusing on the faction mission sections.

[David_Bross]

James McTeague wrote:

Guide, pg. 18 wrote:

Liberty’s Edge faction PCs qualify for Andoran faction

vanities and mission boons available in past seasons.
Likewise, Dark Archive faction PCs qualify for Cheliax
rewards, Scarab Sages as Osirion, The Exchange as
Qadira, and Sovereign Court as Taldor. Without a boon
that states otherwise, a PC cannot earn Sczarni vanities
or boons.

To clarify though, prestige awards, such as those found in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, are unavailable per this rule.

[UndeadMitch]

How so, are the faction vanities not what we pay prestige for? Are you saying that an Exchange PC can't for example, buy the "Trade Prince" vanity out of the Field guide? Because it was my my understanding that you could. What other faction vanities would they be talking about?

[Preston Hudson]

The faction prestige awards are still usable according to pg 18 of the guide. If they were not, Osirion characters with the Risen title (vanity) are not allowed to change factions which would cause a major issue if the clause on pg 18 was not present. According to the Field Guide, there are no Faction Vanities to speak of so, in theory, by faction vanities I believe the refernce was to the Faction Prestige awards and mission boons from Season 5 scenarios. Sczarni vanities (prestige awards) are not available without a boon stating otherwise.

[David_Bross]

You spend prestige on many different things, Vanities are listed at the end of the PFS field guide, while Prestige Awards listed under factions are distinct, at least in terms of text.

I'd imagine if they intended to keep the prestige awards from each faction the guide would have used that term, but it is strange since there are no faction specific vanities, at least in the field guide.

It'd be nice to get clarification if this understanding is incorrect. In fact they mentioned specifically earlier in the guide that we got to keep any titles, vanities, or other awards we had. If we were supposed to be able to purchase the titles and other prestige awards that would be a useful clarification to get. The other references to vanities in the guide specifically call out page 60, which is where vanities, and not prestige awards are listed.

Guide to Organized Play page 18 wrote:

Any faction-specific vanities, titles, traits, prestige items, or other purchases made while the character was a member of the retired faction are retained by that character with no changes.

Guide to Organized Play page 18 wrote:

Liberty’s Edge faction PCs qualify for Andoran faction vanities and mission boons available in past seasons. Likewise, Dark Archive faction PCs qualify for Cheliax rewards, Scarab Sages as Osirion, The Exchange as Qadira, and Sovereign Court as Taldor. Without a boon that states otherwise, a PC cannot earn Sczarni vanities or boons.

[Iammars]

Okay David, if that's not what "faction-specific vanities" refer to, then what exactly does that text refer to?

Given that the Field Guide refers to the "Vanities" section as both Vanities and Prestige Awards, I'm going with the text actually meaning something and matching the already stated intention as opposed to being completely useless.

EDIT: It looks like the section I thought the book was referring to the vanities chapter as prestige awards was actually referring to the frontmatter page about prestige and fame. I'm still not seeing a meaningful difference between "Prestige Award" and "Vanity" though.

[David_Bross]

The book in question gives very specific names to certain sections. I don't see why we would ignore the text of the guide calling out those specific names in different parts of the guide.

This isn't to say I don't think this could be a typo, and they meant the prestige awards. I'd just be cautious purchasing them until such a time as this issue is clarified. I called out above that there are no faction specific vanities (that I'm aware of).

I don't understand why they would use separate text for the two unless specifically trying to delineate between two things.

Furthermore in the know direction podcast with John Compton it was specifically mentioned that titles you had would be kept, but going forward the factions were changing and that some wouldn't be accessible after gencon. This is to the best of my memory, I can't link anything specific here.

It doesn't really make sense for anyone to become an "Eagle Knight" of Liberty's Edge, as that is a rank in the Andoran military, does it?

[kinevon]

"Greetings! I am Kinevon, Eagle Knight Captain, working with Liberty's Edge to ensure that there is freedom and liberty for all."

We won't go into the fact that my PC Kinevon includes multiple Captain titles in his stock:
Eagle Knight Captain
Ship Captain
Venture Captain

[Quintin Verassi]

What is a Sason? It sound like something I could sell in contracts.....

[Kerney]

Quintin Verassi wrote:

What is a Sason? It sound like something I could sell in contracts.....

It's reference to Vidal Sason, Trade Prince who distributes hair care products across the Inner Sea. Rumor has it he even has contacts in parallel universes.

[Majuba]

Isn't Sason a base woodwind with a double reed?

There is no such thing as a "faction vanity" - the only logical sense is that it means the faction prestige awards, which are nearly identical in form to the vanities in the later section. Ones that "aren't available after Gen Con" are the ones for Sczarni, as that faction has been absorbed.

[WalterGM]

James McTeague wrote:

Okay David, if that's not what "faction-specific vanities" refer to, then what exactly does that text refer to?

Given that the Field Guide refers to the "Vanities" section as both Vanities and Prestige Awards, I'm going with the text actually meaning something and matching the already stated intention as opposed to being completely useless.

EDIT: It looks like the section I thought the book was referring to the vanities chapter as prestige awards was actually referring to the frontmatter page about prestige and fame. I'm still not seeing a meaningful difference between "Prestige Award" and "Vanity" though.

I think that both you and David have the right of it here.

Clearly what you refer to, James, is what was intended for the text to refer to.

David's just making a good point that the text as written doesn't apply to those things.

We just need a clarification on this, no need for any hostilities.

[BigNorseWolf]

David_Bross wrote:

It doesn't really make sense for anyone to become an "Eagle Knight" of Liberty's Edge, as that is a rank in the Andoran military, does it?

There's still enough similarities between the two that some of them at least are still on friendly terms.

[Bori Ironshield]

Has this been confirmed? Can a member of the Exchange select a prestige award from Qadira in the PFS Field Guide?

[Gamerskum]

some of the boons actually let you buy said "rewards" so I would assume so.

[BigNorseWolf]

Bori Ironshield wrote:

Has this been confirmed? Can a member of the Exchange select a prestige award from Qadira in the PFS Field Guide?

Yes

Guide page 18

Liberty’s Edge faction PCs qualify for Andoran faction
vanities and mission boons available in past seasons.
Likewise, Dark Archive faction PCs qualify for Cheliax
rewards, Scarab Sages as Osirion, The Exchange as
Qadira, and Sovereign Court as Taldor. Without a boon
that states otherwise, a PC cannot earn Sczarni vanities
or boons.

[David_Bross]

It was made abundantly clear to me when I rewatched John Compton's know direction podcast that he considers prestige awards from factions to be vanities. This post didn't get any traction however and everyone I know (myself included) went on the intended wording, ignoring any ambiguity.

[Maar the Volcano Monk]

Kerney wrote:

Quintin Verassi wrote:

What is a Sason? It sound like something I could sell in contracts.....

It's reference to Vidal Sason, Trade Prince who distributes hair care products across the Inner Sea. Rumor has it he even has contacts in parallel universes.

Not enough people laughed at this so I'll take it upon myself to say; Nice. ;)