Bleach / Bladebound Magus help


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Hey guys, so I'm attempting to make a Bleach based bladebound magus after Hisagi Shuuhei. He wields a Katana that turns into a double ended kasuri-gama. I want to play a full blood elf/drow magus would be preferred. I'm looking for anything under a lvl 10 build. All pathfinder books available. So thoughts suggestions on feats, skills, weapon enchantments, etc would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

Scarab Sages

It look like you want a Bladebound Kensai, to go with the unarmored look.


My first thought was... a drow? He doesn't even make a big deal about being noble.... then i realized I've only seen through season 7 and for him confused with captain shunsui...


Well the race is more because i enjoy both Elves, and Drow elves, not because it favors the character more. Im just looking to make a character with a class, feats, skills that would match up with the character from that anime better.

Bladebound and Kensai look to be best with the free magic weapon, and the exotic weapon pro/focus. The reduced spell casting is fine because hes not a great spell caster, not a great swordsman, but hes decent at both. The main concern i have is the changing from a Katana to a double ended Kasari-gama.


If 3.5 is available there was a magic property called morphing, or morphic, something like that, that let you change the weapon to any weapon you wanted at will. I'm not sure if pathfinder has anything like that.

Silver Crusade

Ishpumalibu wrote:
If 3.5 is available there was a magic property called morphing, or morphic, something like that, that let you change the weapon to any weapon you wanted at will. I'm not sure if pathfinder has anything like that.

It is under intelligent items, which kinda fits for a soul reaper weapon anmyways.

Regarding Hisagi Shuuhei, I think that he could use some sneak attack, maybe dip a bit into Slayer. Monk you allow him to keep his armor class up.

Scarab Sages

Ishpumalibu wrote:
If 3.5 is available there was a magic property called morphing, or morphic, something like that, that let you change the weapon to any weapon you wanted at will. I'm not sure if pathfinder has anything like that.

You cannot enchant black blades, and the list of temporary enchantments you can give them via arcane pool is very small.


Ishpumalibu wrote:
If 3.5 is available there was a magic property called morphing, or morphic, something like that, that let you change the weapon to any weapon you wanted at will. I'm not sure if pathfinder has anything like that.

yes 3.5 and some pathfinder compatible books are available as long as I can show source in a pdf/printed book. After looking into the possible weapon enchants idea, i was also looking into possible Magus Arcana and came across Eldritch Athame (Su), for changing the weapon into another form and having weapon pro in it.

Does anyone think a few levels in Samurai and taking the sword saint archetype is actually worth it, or is it a case of looks better then it feels?

I was debating also putting 10-12 levels into Magus, picking up Dimension Door, and doing the Dimensional Agility feat chain for at least a little bit to get the feeling of the Flash step thats the reapers have. Is Dimensional Agility worth it if i take 3-4 of the feats?


Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
Ishpumalibu wrote:
If 3.5 is available there was a magic property called morphing, or morphic, something like that, that let you change the weapon to any weapon you wanted at will. I'm not sure if pathfinder has anything like that.

It is under intelligent items, which kinda fits for a soul reaper weapon anmyways.

Regarding Hisagi Shuuhei, I think that he could use some sneak attack, maybe dip a bit into Slayer. Monk you allow him to keep his armor class up.

Where exactly can I find slayer? is it an archetype of some sort?


Rylden wrote:
Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
Ishpumalibu wrote:
If 3.5 is available there was a magic property called morphing, or morphic, something like that, that let you change the weapon to any weapon you wanted at will. I'm not sure if pathfinder has anything like that.

It is under intelligent items, which kinda fits for a soul reaper weapon anmyways.

Regarding Hisagi Shuuhei, I think that he could use some sneak attack, maybe dip a bit into Slayer. Monk you allow him to keep his armor class up.

Where exactly can I find slayer? is it an archetype of some sort?

Slayer is one of the classes from the advanced class guide, which won't be released until august 14th.


Ah, i was able to find a link to it in the forums here, looks like a fun idea of a class, seems a little unfinished, so ill have to wait until the release to get the best idea of it.


So im curious if a jump in Samurai would be worth the levels, and if Dimensional Agility is worth the feats to get, and how many of them should i pick up?


Eldritch knight may be nice, the spell critical you could fluff as doing kido...


Dimensional agility not really worth it. Just use Bladed Dash and later use Greater Bladed Dash.


I never thought of Eldritch Knight, looks not bad, keeping p a great BAB, and spell crit is awesome.

Sad to hear that Dimensional Agility isnt worth the feats, it sounds really cool.

Sczarni

Actually drop the Magus altogether. Realistically you should go with Soulknife (Psionics)
1. Your weapon is a mindblade (so more like their weapons). As you progress you have the ability to transform it into specific weapons and there is a feat that allows you to change its shape. This fits the overall theme of the characters switching between weapon release forms.

2. Psychic strike can be skinned to sort of look like the "special" attacks that can be done with the weapons.

3. Blade Skills allows you to customize many of the powers you use with it.

Overall this allows for a character that doesn't use magic but has some magic like abilities.


Not a bad idea Shfish, but Magus with Bladebound type gets a intelligent sword. You can also take Magus Arcana Eldritch Athame (Su)to alt the shape of your weapon completely, and have weapon pro in the new weapon regardless of what you make. Kensai allows for no armor pro, but Int to armor. Dimension door and the dervish feats would allow for the Flashstep abilities that many have. To many things from Magus to ignore it as a great start to this character concept.


What is his initial release power?


He turns his katana into a double ended Kasari-gama


Well, i meant the power...

Sczarni

Rylden wrote:
Not a bad idea Shfish, but Magus with Bladebound type gets a intelligent sword. You can also take Magus Arcana Eldritch Athame (Su)to alt the shape of your weapon completely, and have weapon pro in the new weapon regardless of what you make. Kensai allows for no armor pro, but Int to armor. Dimension door and the dervish feats would allow for the Flashstep abilities that many have. To many things from Magus to ignore it as a great start to this character concept.

Umm I'm guessing you didn't look at the class I indicated. Let me list some things for you to specifically look at and read and then tell it doesn't fit better. Again, magus isn't the answer. (Cause you don't cast dim door as an immediate action)

Go do d20pfsrd.com and search for soulknife. Click on the list for blade skills. Look at the following:
Alter blade (can be done with a feat too)
Combat Slide (flash step sort of, reads as a 5ft step and there are ways to add to that)
Evasion
Mental Power [goes with gifted blade archtype](Dimension Slide, for longer 'flash step' moves at higher level)

Additionally if you wanted to give the character some Kido abilities (keeping in mind the char you mentioning isn't that much) then the archtype Gifted Blade does that.

There is of course more things than I listed that might fit that character more. He is more rogue like than others, and gets that from the Soulknife blade skills. While for some of the bleach characters the Magus would work well enough because of the destructive power they can have adds to it, this particular character is not served well by it. You are trying to use a very square peg to fit into a round hole sir. While this may not be the perfect circle, with some wiggling I believe it will go in.


Actually after looking into further, thats not to bad Shfish. Seems decent as a build, but with my character already started in the game with my current GM i dont think its going to fly as a re-write, so im trying to stay with Bladebound Kensai and see what i can do to make it into a soul reaper


I mainly know 3.5 better, what 3.5 books do you guys have?


I have access to well over a dozen different books, if you can tell me the book its from ill be able to find it no doubt. if i cant from my books, a friend has even more books, so Im sure we have access to whichever book you may have in mind


Well i just finished watching a fight between him and an espada, i don't know if you're looking for his fighting style, but he seems very reactive, agile, and somewhat tricky. He relies on feinting alot it seems.

Hold the line feat from miniatures handbook
Evasive reflexes from tome of battle
Robilars gambit from phb 2.
Improved feint

Also, magically, he seems to quicken a kido that rains down spines
Also dispelling magic as counterspells.

Just some ideas.


Great ideas, i was looking into all of that, I couldn't find Hold the Line in Miniatures, but i found it in Complete warrior, if thats the same one your referring to?


Yeah, sorry, with that and evasive reflexes, and robilars gambit you can be extremely mobile and negate most of the opponents hits.... broken wing gambit is good too if you're using teamwork feats.

Sczarni

Also book of nine swords..came out towards the end of 3.5 and has sword sage and a few other classes. You might find that more helpful to multiclass into since you are already commited to a created character.


Yes book of nine swords is awesome, i also have the first Path to War book from Dreamscarred press which is also amazing. Right now i think Magus/Rogue, or Magus/Slayer would be a good mix up, Im debating a dip into Samurai for a few levels to pick up some class skills from the sword saint archetype.


It seems like a lot of the skill is sense motive to assess the power of his opponents, though I'm not sure if his personality is important.

You may also want to look into iujitsu focus, the skill from oriental adventures...


Ive looked into Iuijutsu focus, but my DM isnt sure he likes the concept of having a starting hit do so much. Which is why im thinking a dip into Samurai would help with the sword saint archetype. It allows for 1d6 every odd level to be added to the hit as long as you had to draw the blade first


I'm just not sure how much you'll like progressing spells slower.


What about knowledge devotion from complete champion? Or maybe arcane disciple from complete divine? That would be scaling damage, based on how well you know your opponent, and spells that fit your character from his beliefs with 6 more spells from a divine source.

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