RPing a Lawful Evil Cleric of Abadar?


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As the title says. How would one RP this? Almost all the Abadar clerics I have seen in-play are lawful neutral. However, I like the idea of a lawful evil cleric of Abadar, but models from actual Pf games are few and far between. So, how would you guys here RP a lawful Evil Abadar cleric?


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I'd say harsh, bringing civilization with an iron fist, and severly punishing those who break the laws and defy civilization. Stern, not afraid to use violence, but only when necessary.


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Greedy. Cutthroat. Aristocratic. Elitist. Self-Centered and/or Nepotistic. Haughty. Condescending (especially towards those in poverty; essentially, blaming the underprivileged for the misfortune of their birth and/or the impurity of their bloodline). Entitled. Legalistic (with a tendency to exploit the law through loop-holes and other unfair business practices).


Must wear jackboots.


Strict adherance to the letter of the law, not necessarily the intent. Manipulating the law and abusing it benefit yourself.

Honest, and keeps his word. However, if you do not have an agreement in place he will be willing to extort from you whatever he desires through any legal means he has. Willing to use violence to excise things, but this will not be his first resort only because it will so often no be legal.

Believes the success of civilzation and the privelaged is more important than the people.

Think Senators of the late Roman empire just before the collapse.

Scarab Sages

The sterotypical DMV employee.


You see yourself as a martyr, making the "harsh sentences and punishments that other worshipers don't have the stomach for", though you subconsciously crave and thirst for these opportunities. A child caught stealing an apple? Cut his hand off - AT LEAST!


Takhisis wrote:
As the title says. How would one RP this? Almost all the Abadar clerics I have seen in-play are lawful neutral. However, I like the idea of a lawful evil cleric of Abadar, but models from actual Pf games are few and far between. So, how would you guys here RP a lawful Evil Abadar cleric?

I'd RP him (or her) like Tyrion Lannister. Snide but somewhat friendly, and abusing the rules to get his way.


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Brox RedGloves wrote:
Takhisis wrote:
As the title says. How would one RP this? Almost all the Abadar clerics I have seen in-play are lawful neutral. However, I like the idea of a lawful evil cleric of Abadar, but models from actual Pf games are few and far between. So, how would you guys here RP a lawful Evil Abadar cleric?
I'd RP him (or her) like Tyrion Lannister. Snide but somewhat friendly, and abusing the rules to get his way.

I dunno about Tyrion, but a comparison to a Lannister isn't far off.

Greedy? Like a Banker. He would definitely dig on the wealth/merchant aspect, minoring in Law to use the loopholes and whatnot to manipulate it to his own ends.

I would think a LE Cleric would be the point where Capitalism and Religion meet and have lunch.

Sczarni

Vuiper Ghivel of the Council of Thieves (PZO 9030 6) is a good example of a LE Priest of Abadar. He basically weasels his way through life, working the law to his best ends. Its perfectly fine for him to kill you if you attack him, as that is self defense, allowed by law. Even if it means capturing you, torturing you, enslaving you, and generally killing you slowly... if allowed by law.


Ferengi, from after 3rd season of TNG
If you watch Continuum, plenty of examples

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Takhisis wrote:
As the title says. How would one RP this? Almost all the Abadar clerics I have seen in-play are lawful neutral. However, I like the idea of a lawful evil cleric of Abadar, but models from actual Pf games are few and far between. So, how would you guys here RP a lawful Evil Abadar cleric?

Mr. Potter of "It's A Wonderful Life" comes to mind.


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Every villain banker ever.


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Dolores Umbridge.

Sczarni

darkwarriorkarg wrote:
If you watch Continuum, plenty of examples

...pretty much every character... lol


As a PC...I would say that he would always ask for the money/signed contract first. He would never do a good deed without a bottom line within sight (even if it is only to keep good appearances).

I'd even imagine him suggesting that they should allow certain problems (werewolf infestation when the party all has +3 weapons) to grow before they offer to solve them in order to negotiate a higher reward.


When I think lawful evil I think Dracula. Refined, has a code, but he is still going to eat you. Lord Soth is another. He has his code but is evil to the core sort of "I'm sorry that I have to kill you but that is just how things are."

Bond Villains would be a good place to look. Most have a plan, are organized, but don't don't give a damn about anyone other than themselves.

Sczarni

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I'd add classism and imperialism into the mix. I played a LE Inquisitor of Abadar in a Kingmaker campaign, and played him as a would-be conqueror who saw himself as doing a good deed by turning the Stolen Lands into a civilized city-scape and converting or ousting the backwater rabble that lived there. He was ambitious to the point of ruthlessness, exalted the city lifestyle and all its trappings, and had nothing but contempt for rural folk. He clashed with the party druid, made a few efforts to "redeem" the ranger the way a paladin might with an evil team member (and considered himself successful when the ranger took Urban for a favored Terrain) and never once considered that if people were happy living off the land, then he wasn't "helping" them by turning their home into a city and enforcing its laws on them.

He was chosen to be the king of the new area (only party member left with a CHA above 10), and ended up struggling with it because he absolutely refused to convert any hexes into farmland.

"Farmland means communities of uncivilized peasants who have no concept of all the joys and advantages of a proper city! Some of them don't even WANT to make anything better of themselves-- they waste their lives on filthy animals and hard labor and they honestly think they've got it good out there! There'll be no such heathens in the shining utopia of Abadaria! No sir! What? Food shortages? Well then we need more security on the trade routes so the food can reach the city! This is exactly why caravan robbers get the noose in my city!"

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