Is there a spontaneously casting veriant to the magus class? As magus seem more like a spontaneously casting a spell caster in theme than a studious mage.
The cabalist, can be found on the SRD. It is 3PP but seems ok.
I was hoping for a official supplement. Thank you for your answer though.
It just seems that there should be a spontaneous arcane caster that uses armor other than the bard,whom has damage based spells.
Fighter 1/Sorcerer 6/ Eldrich Knight X with 'Arcane Armor Training' feat ?
Fighter 1/Sorcerer 3+ with 'Arcane Armor Training' feat ?
Sorcerer 3+ with 'Armor Proficiency, Light (Combat)' and 'Arcane Armor Training' feats.
True but i was thinking a base class would be better
I am with you .. a base class that cast spontaneous spells (up to 9 lvl) including damage spells, wears armor and hits hard with weapons is .. too good to be true.
Hey there is no such class in PF!? Surprise.
I am with you .. a base class that cast spontaneous spells (up to 9 lvl) including damage spells, wears armor and hits hard with weapons is .. too good to be true.
Hey there is no such class in PF!? Surprise.
I think he just wanted a spontaneous casting magus, which is reasonable. So, no. No 9th level spells. 6th level does just fine, and a restricted spell list (heck just use the magus spell list). Add an "arcana" that allows him to use metamagic without increasing spellcasting time for certain levels of spells (working out the exact mechanics may be difficult but it's plausible). Also, there isn't really "hitting hard" with weapons. Strength maguses suffer from poor AC and still can't develop the kind of strength to hit reliably with Power Attack like a full BAB class. A dex based dervish magus is going to deal like 1d6+10 per hit with his weapon, and the rest of the damage comes from spells.
On the whole, it seems very reasonable to me, at least in compairson to the magus.
I am with you .. a base class that cast spontaneous spells (up to 9 lvl) including damage spells, wears armor and hits hard with weapons is .. too good to be true.
Hey there is no such class in PF!? Surprise.
Well, if you lowered the spell level 6, Inquisitor fits the rest.
It just seems that there should be a spontaneous arcane caster that uses armor other than the bard,whom has damage based spells.
I don't remember if they have any direct damage spells like the Bard or Magus, but Summoner's cast in armor.
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It just seems that there should be a spontaneous arcane caster that uses armor other than the bard,whom has damage based spells.
Summoner:
3/4 BABsimple weapons
light armor
d8
great spell list
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an attack beast that will make any druid cry in shame and envy
It hasn't great direct damage spells, but it has plenty of control and utility spells.
I am with you .. a base class that cast spontaneous spells (up to 9 lvl) including damage spells, wears armor and hits hard with weapons is .. too good to be true.
Hey there is no such class in PF!? Surprise.
See the above reply. The summoner spell list is a 9 levels spell list masquerading as a 6 levels spell list.
It just seems that there should be a spontaneous arcane caster that uses armor other than the bard,whom has damage based spells.I don't remember if they have any direct damage spells like the Bard or Magus, but Summoner's cast in armor.
It has a few spell that do damage as a secondary effect when doing battlefield control: Create pit and the other pits, Aqueous Orb, Wall of fire, Black tentacles, insect plague, incendiary cloud.
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After the "why I dislike the summoner" tirade, something for the OP.
Wayfinder n.7 has the Extempresario magus archetype. It is not official, but it is free and it is distributed by Paizo.
That make it generally more acceptable by most GM.
I think that becoming a spontaneous caster is a good power boost for a magus and the Extempresario replace spell recall with the ability to prepare a spell know as a ready spell with a applied metamagic, so that he can cast it with spell combat. That replace spell recall
At 7th level the knowledge pool ability is modified so that the Extempresario can add a magus spell to his spell list for 24 hours.
Decidedly a solid class.
Edit in italics to make it more clear
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I think that becoming a spontaneous caster is a good boost for a magusSorry, but you discredited yourself with that sentence. A spontaneous Magus version is something I'd appreciate myself (crosses fingers for ACG), but the Magus does not need any kind of boost.
A good boost isn't the same thing as a needed boost.
Making a human sorcerer and taking the human favored class bonus (1 extra spell know) is a good boost for the power of the sorcerer. It isn't a needed boost at all.
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It just seems that there should be a spontaneous arcane caster that uses armor other than the bard,whom has damage based spells.
You may want to look at Super Genius Games' Vanguard.
And Spontaneous casting is not a boost, it is a nerf.
The Arcane Duelist is a bard variant that works this way... kinda.
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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If I remember correctly, the Arcane Duelist was turned over with a different spell list than the bard. Maybe the writer can confirm/share?
I have my own Damascarran (link in my profile) but I stopped working on it when I read the Vanguard and found Owen's work superior to my own. (Still would like an intended based stabracadabra though.)
Arcane Duelist
The spell list is unchanged, but has other combat stuff going on.
Just because he doesn't have Spellstrike, the bard is not inferior to the magus, he still gets gems like Bladed Dash, Displacement, and some stuff exclusive to him like Heroism.
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I know the original poster said he would prefer to stick with Paizo only material, which is cool.
However, for those that are OK with Third Party material, you might check out the Vanguard class I wrote for Super Genius Games (now Rogue Genius Games of course):
The Genius Guide to the Vanguard.
The criteria listed by the original poster is pretty much exactly describes the Vanguard to a proverbial "T" :)
I know the original poster said he would prefer to stick with Paizo only material, which is cool.
However, for those that are OK with Third Party material, you might check out the Vanguard class I wrote for Super Genius Games (now Rogue Genius Games of course):
The Genius Guide to the Vanguard.
The criteria listed by the original poster is pretty much exactly describes the Vanguard to a proverbial "T" :)
Based on the price sir, I'm now strongly considering purchasing this and asking my GM if he will allow it. I tell you this because I am strongly opposed to 3rd party material much of the time, but for the price and the reviews provided by people I believe this may be something even I can support.
I doff my cap to you for making something that even a miser like me can get behind.
I know the original poster said he would prefer to stick with Paizo only material, which is cool.
However, for those that are OK with Third Party material, you might check out the Vanguard class I wrote for Super Genius Games (now Rogue Genius Games of course):
The Genius Guide to the Vanguard.
The criteria listed by the original poster is pretty much exactly describes the Vanguard to a proverbial "T" :)
Based on the price sir, I'm now strongly considering purchasing this and asking my GM if he will allow it. I tell you this because I am strongly opposed to 3rd party material much of the time, but for the price and the reviews provided by people I believe this may be something even I can support.
I doff my cap to you for making something that even a miser like me can get behind.
Pathfinder is third party material for Dungeons and Dragons 3.5.
Pathfinder is third party material for Dungeons and Dragons 3.5.I know the original poster said he would prefer to stick with Paizo only material, which is cool.
However, for those that are OK with Third Party material, you might check out the Vanguard class I wrote for Super Genius Games (now Rogue Genius Games of course):
The Genius Guide to the Vanguard.
The criteria listed by the original poster is pretty much exactly describes the Vanguard to a proverbial "T" :)
Based on the price sir, I'm now strongly considering purchasing this and asking my GM if he will allow it. I tell you this because I am strongly opposed to 3rd party material much of the time, but for the price and the reviews provided by people I believe this may be something even I can support.
I doff my cap to you for making something that even a miser like me can get behind.
They were. They aren't anymore.
I didn't use Pathfinder back then either. I've always been reluctant to go to 3rd party material.
Way?
And Spontaneous casting is not a boost, it is a nerf.
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I know the original poster said he would prefer to stick with Paizo only material, which is cool.
However, for those that are OK with Third Party material, you might check out the Vanguard class I wrote for Super Genius Games (now Rogue Genius Games of course):
The Genius Guide to the Vanguard.
The criteria listed by the original poster is pretty much exactly describes the Vanguard to a proverbial "T" :)
Based on the price sir, I'm now strongly considering purchasing this and asking my GM if he will allow it. I tell you this because I am strongly opposed to 3rd party material much of the time, but for the price and the reviews provided by people I believe this may be something even I can support.
I doff my cap to you for making something that even a miser like me can get behind.
Thank you sir - that is high praise ineed!
Hope it lives up to your expectations!
I just think there needs to be a few more spontaneous arcane casters than there are.