unbreakable?


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Scarab Sages

In the bladebon magus archetype there is an ability that states that as long as the blade has at least 1 arcane point then it has the unbreakable ability. Does this apply for special abilities, as in the ability of a rust monster?

Grand Lodge

Yep.


For all intents & purposes, the 'Black Blade' class feature can be considered a kind of 'lesser artifact', pretty much.

Grand Lodge

Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:
For all intents & purposes, the 'Black Blade' class feature can be considered a kind of 'lesser artifact', pretty much.

There's bad and good and that. The bad is that you can't enchant it... The good is that you won't lose the blade to humiliating misadventures like rust monsters.


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Just bear in mind that unbreakable doesn't mean it can't be destroyed.

Quote:

Magus, Black Blade: Can a black blade be sundered?

Yes.
The weapon's immunity the broken condition if it has at least 1 point in its arcane pool only prevents the specific effects of the broken condition. A black blade can still take damage--or even be destroyed--if it has at least 1 point in its arcane pool, it just won't take the additional penalties from the broken condition.

The name of a class feature (in this case, "unbreakable") is flavor text, not rules text.

Scarab Sages

ty for the Info :-)


I understand this was stated in earlier posts but is this interpretation or a fact?

My blade was destroyed in two attacks by a Rust Monster...poor Ramuh didnt stand a chance,unless my DM reads otherwise..


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Unbreakable (Ex): As long as it has at least 1 point in its arcane pool, a black blade is immune to the broken condition. If broken, the black blade is unconscious and powerless until repaired. If destroyed, the black blade can be reforged 1 week later through a special ritual that costs 200 gp per magus level. The ritual takes 24 hours to complete.

--Ultimate Magic pg 48


lex_dm wrote:

I understand this was stated in earlier posts but is this interpretation or a fact?

My blade was destroyed in two attacks by a Rust Monster...poor Ramuh didnt stand a chance,unless my DM reads otherwise..

Hmmm. Good question. I think that raw, the first attack deal half the weapon's hp, but don't give the broken condition, because the black blade is immune to this condition, but the statement regarding the second hit just says "a second hit destroy the weapon", it doesn't say that the weapon need to be broken to be destroyed. As it written, an already broken weapon, with at least 1/2+1 original hp, still need 2 hits to be destroyed. The destruction of the weapon seems to be related more on the damage dealt than the broken condition, in fact "The object touched takes half its maximum hp in damage", wich means that 2 hits deal the grand total item hp in damage, destroying it. So, your black blade is immune to the broken condition from the hit, but it not prevent it from destruction.


lex_dm wrote:

I understand this was stated in earlier posts but is this interpretation or a fact?

My blade was destroyed in two attacks by a Rust Monster...poor Ramuh didnt stand a chance,unless my DM reads otherwise..

Your blade was unfortunately legitimately destoryed. The attack of a rust monster deal half of a metal weapons hp in damage. Thats simply what happens unfortunately. As an attened magic object, it did get a chance (or should have) to make a DC 15 reflex save to avoid the damage. It even gets to use your saves, which are probably better.

If you did unfortunately fail this reflex save, it was your only real chance to avoid the damage to your sword.

As to whether this is face or interpretation, it is fact. It was clarified in a FAQ written by the Paizo Development Team.


Thank you all.

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