Mercurial Weapons


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Sczarni

So I'm working on a PFS version of Severian from the Book of the New Sun, but I've come to one snag...Terminus Est, his sword.

I know DnD had the mercurial ability you could add to weapons. Does Pathfinder have anything like that?


Hmm, interesting abilities.
No, Pathfinder doesn't have those as of yet.
I'd suggest a magic ability. Could be easily worth a +3 cost on a magic weapon if you wanted to house rule it.
Closest thing Pathfinder has to that is the Impact weapon quality, which only effects certain weapons, and allows them to hit one size category larger.


What's a mercurial weapon? Knowing that will help more people help you.


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weren't those ones that had a hollow tube in them filled with mercury? Counted as exotic weapons and hit as though they were a size larger? I remember seeing a ranger with a mercurial greatsword at one point at least.

Silver Crusade

There is nothing similar, thank goodness. That is one of the most broken things to have come out those days. I would rework it into having keen and maybe impact.


I loved these things. Mercurial rapier with weapon finesse for the win. :D

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They also had an increased crit multiplier.


Riuken wrote:
There is nothing similar, thank goodness. That is one of the most broken things to have come out those days. . . .

No. No it is not. That's not even close to broken, unless you mean broken in the fashion that it doesn't function.

Mercurial is from Arms and Equipment Guide (3.0). It swapped out the 19-20/x2 on a weapon and made it x4 instead, and had an additional -3 penalty over the -4 nonproficiency penalty making it a -7 to wield without spending a feat. And that is not including the additional monetary cost.

Transmuting was a +2 magical enhancement from Magic Item Compendium (3.5), and if I remember correctly, it allowed the weapon to change form, like from a short sword to a great sword to a spiked chain... So not really what you are going for, Anhara.

Wikipedia wrote:
. . . Terminus Est is described as being "Light to raise, weighty to descend," by Master Palaemon. This is due to . . . a channel in the spine of the blade, containing liquid hydrargyrum, another name for mercury. . . .

So the shifting of mass added to the damage the sword dealt. I'm not really sure if there is anything in pathfinder that fits, much less PFS play. Sorry. :(

Sczarni

No worries. I assumed there wasn't anything. I'll figure something out I'm sure. Keen maybe, or something similar. I only asked cause I don't have all the books and thought maybe there was something hiding out there


Love the books
And for the sword. It is a weapon made to deliver coup de gras with. So unless it is for PFS i would use the stats for a Tetsubo and arrangere with the GM that it does slashing damage. Or just give him a great axe.
What class are you planning to make him. Will he be intimidate baded to simulate the reputation and skills of his guild? Will he use profession( torturere) in his Downtime?


Only thing anywhere close I can think of is lead blades. Spell for rangers that lets you deal damage as if the weapon were one size larger.


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Riuken wrote:
. . . I would rework it into having keen and maybe impact.

Not a bad idea, but prohibitively expensive for low level play...

Lead Blades is a good catch Zauriel56. Actually the fluff of the spell match the original description of mercurial... so it kind of fits.

Large(er) Weapons:
PFSRD wrote:
. . . Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies. . . .

A masterwork large greatsword gives you a -1 to hit, 3d6 damage, 19/x2, and costs 350gp. I'm not certain it's allowed in PFS and it's not really much of an improvement over power attack damage, but it might fit.

Te'Shen wrote:
A masterwork large greatsword gives you a -1 to hit, 3d6 damage, 19/x2, and costs 350gp. I'm not certain it's allowed in PFS and it's not really much of an improvement over power attack damage, but it might fit.

A large greatsword is not wield-able by a medium creature in standard rules (arguable, it could take three hands to wield, but that's not RAW). You'd need to be a Titan Mauler to try it, and I'm not sure if that's PFS legal.

Quote:
The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.


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Came to this thread late.
Lead blades is what I'd go with, best fluff match with lower cost requirements.

Weapon-wise maybe nodachi because it has a very long blade (granted was originally designed for group troops versus calvary). Or you can use a katana 2-handed (to avoid exotic feat) for the deadly special property (bonus on coup de gras) which is what Terminus Est was about as well.


BetaSprite wrote:

A large greatsword is not wield-able by a medium creature in standard rules (arguable, it could take three hands to wield, but that's not RAW). You'd need to be a Titan Mauler to try it, and I'm not sure if that's PFS legal.

Quote:
The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.

Ah. I missed that.

I am wrong. Ignore me.


For the OP... you could look into the Collision from the Psinoics. Not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it's close.


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The IMPACT weapon enhancement is your friend.


^^^^ That is the one ^^^^ fun times! Keen impact nodochi equals splat!

Sczarni

I was thinking of making it a greatsword, cause that's kinda how I always imagined Terminus Est. THe lead weapon sounds cool, but impact is a definite I think.

In terms of class I was thinking a fighter, or a cleric that follows a god of death or the empyreal lord of executioners. I was definitely building for intimidate and having Carnifex as his profession, though I'm not sure if the torture aspect of the carnifex role would have me labeled as evil...

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