I have a question about Magus abilities.
Assume I pass my concentration checks so we don’t have to worry about that bit.
Race: Tiefling [with prehensile tail holding a metamagic rod and 2 claws]
Class: Hex Magus Level 4 with a familiar.
Using Spell Combat and Spellstrike...
So I cast a metamagic’ed Frostbite [this give me 4 “touches”] and use Spellstrike to deliver a frostbite via one of my claws [at -2 because of Spell Combat] instead of using a touch because claws count as a weapon [1 of my 4 touches has gone].
Then, using Spell Combat [because I’m already adjacent to some monsters] I get my full round attacks too and at my level [4] that’ll be just the 2 claws [also at -2 from Spell Combat]. If they hit I deal claw damage and frostbite damage [as I still had 3 “touches” left - now I only have one “touch” left].
Then my familiar moves into a monsters’ space [he doesn’t have a 5ft. reach] and delivers my final frostbite touch via his attack.
Qu.1: Is all that legal?
Qu.2: Does the familiar moving into a monsters space provoke an AoO?
Qu.3: Can the familiar choose to use a touch attack instead of a normal attack?
I'm not sure if it's legal. The description says that you can designate your familiar as toucher when you cast the spell, but when you take the full attack you already had cast the spell. In addition I'm not sure how the multi touch spells works with familiar. I tend toward the "toucher are you or your familiar, not both" line.
Does moving into a space provoke even if you do it with a 5' step?5 foot steps do not provoke. I was referencing actual movement earlier.
A tiny creature moving into someone's space to attack, however, does. Even if it's just a five foot step.
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Take 5-Foot Step
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don't perform any other kind of movement. Taking this 5-foot step never provokes an attack of opportunity. You can't take more than one 5-foot step in a round, and you can't take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance.You can take a 5-foot step before, during, or after your other actions in the round.
You can only take a 5-foot-step if your movement isn't hampered by difficult terrain or darkness. Any creature with a speed of 5 feet or less can't take a 5-foot step, since moving even 5 feet requires a move action for such a slow creature.
You may not take a 5-foot step using a form of movement for which you do not have a listed speed.
Emphasis mine.
Emphasis mine.Take 5-Foot Step
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don't perform any other kind of movement. Taking this 5-foot step never provokes an attack of opportunity. You can't take more than one 5-foot step in a round, and you can't take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance.You can take a 5-foot step before, during, or after your other actions in the round.
You can only take a 5-foot-step if your movement isn't hampered by difficult terrain or darkness. Any creature with a speed of 5 feet or less can't take a 5-foot step, since moving even 5 feet requires a move action for such a slow creature.
You may not take a 5-foot step using a form of movement for which you do not have a listed speed.
For most characters it is a moot point; the rules do not allow you to end movement in an enemy-occupied square - you must either overrun or use Acrobatics to move through the square, and that means you're moving more than 5 feet.
Fine, diminutive, and tiny creatures are an exception:
Very Small Creature: A Fine, Diminutive, or Tiny creature can move into or through an occupied square. The creature provokes attacks of opportunity when doing so.
I'd personally rule that a very small creature who moves into an enemy-occupied space - even using a 5-foot step - would provoke, because of this text.
It is my belief that the word "never" applies to very small creatures as well. "Never" is a strong word.
It is, but I don't know that it's strong enough.
As an example of it not being strong enough (IMO) - do a search for the word 'never' on the same PRD page from which we've been quoting. You'll come across this:
Healing Limits: You can never recover more hit points than you lost. Magical healing won't raise your current hit points higher than your full normal hit point total.
Yet there are abilities that allow extraneous healing to convert into temporary hit points (the one that jumps immediately to mind is the Oracle of Life's Spirit Boost revelation).
I don't know that it's fair to separate 5-foot steps wholly from movement. Would you allow a non-small creature to 5-foot step into an enemy-occupied space (sincerely asking, not being snarky)? The rule barring you from doing so is in the movement section as well.
To me, the statement on 5-foot steps is more of a general rule, because it applies in a majority of situations - as is the part about not ending in an enemy's square. The small creature text is a more specific exception, IMO.
I have a question about Magus abilities.
So I cast a metamagic’ed Frostbite [this give me 4 “touches”] and use Spellstrike to deliver a frostbite via one of my claws [at -2 because of Spell Combat] instead of using a touch because claws count as a weapon [1 of my 4 touches has gone].
So far, so good.
Then, using Spell Combat [because I’m already adjacent to some monsters] I get my full round attacks too and at my level [4] that’ll be just the 2 claws [also at -2 from Spell Combat]. If they hit I deal claw damage and frostbite damage [as I still had 3 “touches” left - now I only have one “touch” left].
Nope. You only get to "Full Attack" with one hand when using Spell Combat. It's in the FAQ. The new Arcana from Blood of the Moon might help you here.
Then my familiar moves into a monsters’ space [he doesn’t have a 5ft. reach] and delivers my final frostbite touch via his attack.
No, the Familiar has to be designated as the toucher at the time of casting. But it can make touch attacks, and I don't believe the 5' step into an enemy's square provokes.
To me, the statement on 5-foot steps is more of a general rule, because it applies in a majority of situations - as is the part about not ending in an enemy's square. The small creature text is a more specific exception, IMO.
Actually, the passage I had in mind, which is IMHO even more specific, is the following:
Creatures that take up less than 1 square of space typically have a natural reach of 0 feet, meaning they can't reach into adjacent squares. They must enter an opponent's square to attack in melee. This provokes an attack of opportunity from the opponent.
Creatures must move into an opponent's square to attack, this attack provokes.
Yes. If they *move* into an opponent's space, they will provoke.
Not if they *five foot step* into an opponent's space.
That's not what the quote says, Nefreet. It says if they enter an opponent's square.
If someone teleports into an enemy's square, they have not moved - used a move action - but they have definitely entered that square, and they still take an AoO.
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If a tiny or smaller creature enters an opponents square it can provoke twice from that action.
Moving in a creature's threatened area provokes.
Moving into a creatures square provokes.
A five foot step will prevent the first AoO but not the second.
Also your prehensile tail cannot hold an object, it is used to draw an object as a swift action you need the Grasping Tail feat to hold items in your tail
Benefit: You can use your tail to grab stowed items. While you cannot wield weapons with your tail, you can use it to retrieve small, stowed objects carried on your person as a swift action.
Special: If you have the prehensile tail racial trait, you can use your tail to grab unattended items within 5 feet as a swift action as well as to grab stowed objects carried on your person; you can hold such objects with your tail, though you cannot manipulate them with your tail (other than to put them in your hand).
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Looking into this further, I no longer believe you can five foot step into an opponent's square anyways. If you guys are using the defense that a five foot step is "movement", then "movement" through an opponent's space is the same as difficult terrain (unless you succeed at an Acrobatics check of 10 + CMD). You'd have to succeed at an Acrobatics check of at least 5 + CMD to be able to move into their space at all.