If you could have a 3PP collabrative class book


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What designers would you like to see?

What classes from 3PP that are already out there, would you like to see in the book or revised?

What types of new classes would you like to see?

What support for 3rd party classes would you like to see (archetypes, expansions of, etc..)?

What type of classes would you like to play?


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Yeah, Rocks Fall Games needs to get in on the class wagon. We've got some races together, but nothing concrete yet. Maybe we'll have to fix that... ;D

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This is ref classes. Races could come later.


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Commander?

No, I am not biased, what would you make think that?! :P


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I would want d20pfsrd.com to market it, I would want Thilo "Endzeitgiest" Graf or Jason Bulmahn and for them to chose and edit it, not a popularity contest. I would want Frog God Games to publish and print it as a kickstarter, full color.

But if it were me besides my own (Divine Channeler, Luckbringer, and Taskshaper)

Armiger Rogue Genius Games
Dragon Rider Rogue Genius Games
Gladiator Purple Duck Games
Godlings Rogue Genius Games
Gutter Mage Oone Games
Malefactor Total Party Kill Games
Machine Smith Louis Porter Jr Design
Occultists Radiance House
Shadow Assassin Rogue Genius Games
Soulknife Dream Scarred Press
Time Thief Rogue Genius Games
Tinkerer Interjection Games
Vanguard Rogue Genius Games
War Master Rogue Genius Games
White Necromancer Kobold Press
Witch Hunter Rogue Genius Games
Wolf Shifter Wayfinder


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Off the top of my head I would like to see:
Runesmith by Little Red Goblin Games
The War Dancer from Drop Dead Studios


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Interesting and flavorful prestige classes that are worth taking, especially for casters. PrC's that could be entered from a variety of base classes. Specialist PrC's such as archery focused, force magic focused, ect. All the good PrC's that should have been published over the lt 5 years but haven't been.


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I would want d20pfsrd.com to market it, I would want Thilo "Endzeitgiest" Graf or Jason Bulmahn and for them to chose and edit it, not a popularity contest. I would want Frog God Games to publish and print it as a kickstarter, full color.

But if it were me besides my own (Divine Channeler, Luckbringer, and Taskshaper)

Armiger Rogue Genius Games
Dragon Rider Rogue Genius Games
Gladiator Purple Duck Games
Godlings Rogue Genius Games
Gutter Mage Oone Games
Malefactor Total Party Kill Games
Machine Smith Louis Porter Jr Design
Occultists Radiance House
Shadow Assassin Rogue Genius Games
Soulknife Dream Scarred Press
Time Thief Rogue Genius Games
Tinker Interjection Games
Vanguard Rogue Genius Games
War Master Rogue Genius Games
White Necromancer Kobold Press
Witch Hunter Rogue Genius Games
Wolf Shifter Wayfinder

Thanks, Steve!!! For what it's worth, I'd be game for such a project. You covered a lot of the classes I'd indeed include, were I to compile such a book. ^^


Bump. I will monitor this thread till Tuesday, then I will start to reach out to companies and designers.


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The Host be LRGG is pretty cool and different.


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If this theoretical project were to happen, I don't even know how we'd GET Occultists into another book. We spend like 80 pages in Pact Magic Unbound, Vol 1 giving that class options! We certainly couldn't include even half of the spirits in Volume 1, let alone the ones found within Volume 2 ....


It's a bit past theoretical...

Who are some favorite designers, besides companies?
What individuals wow you with mechanics or fluff?

What if there were new classes, what themes would be enjoyed?


Monte Cook
2nd vote for Jason Bulmahn


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I'll put a vote in for Eric Morton (aka Epic Meepo). That guy can do just about anything.

Shadow Lodge

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We have more classes on the horizon too... That's probably one of my favorite things to write, though you have to really take your time and get them right.


you just had to open your mouth on facebook didn't you scott.


Last day to give us your feedback :)


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Designers of classes I consider very capable/that have thoroughly impressed me in the past:

-Owen K.C. Stephens (D'unh)
-Steven D. Russell (D'unh no.2)
-Reid Stewart (Swordmaster, Puppetmaster...)
-Bradley Crouch (Tinker, Herbalist, etc.)
-David Nicholas Ross (Covenant Magic!!)
-Alexander Augunas (Pact Magic!!)
-Will McCardell (Tactical Archetypes with Benjamin Rombeaut, development of MANY ideas/classes etc.)
-Jeremy Smith & Andreas Rönnqvist (Psionics Expanded - OMG, the crunch is glorious)
-Marc Radle (Spell-less Ranger, White Necromancer etc.)
-Morgan Boehringer (Direlock!)

Not sure which one of the designers did Alluria's Aquanaut, but that person as well. Same goes for James Olchak and Brian Berg's cooperative Malefactor.


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Gotta second Rite and End here, their lists pretty much cover most of the things I'd suggest. Plus Rite's Taskshaper, Dreamscarred's upcoming Path of War stuff, and maybe toss LMPjr's Machinesmith in as well.

Also Alluria's Mariner. Awesome class for combat mobility.


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What Endzeitgeist said :)

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This sounds like a cool project and I'd say Endzeitgeist would be the PERFECT person to wrangle it!

(thanks for the nice shout out, by the way End!)

Speaking of new class books, I hope you don't mind, but I figured the folks in this thread might be interested, so ...

The New Paths Compendium from Kobold Press was just officially announced today:)

New Paths Compendium includes:

  • 28 new archetypes for monks, ninjas, gunslingers, barbarians, fighters, clerics, and 7 Compendium classes
  • 7 tracking sheets for animal companions, favored enemies, prepared spells, summoned monsters and more
  • 20 new spells for druids, rangers, shaman, and more
  • Almost 100 new feats for new and existing classes

The seven Compendium classes each bring something new to your Pathfinder Roleplaying Game:

  • The spell-less ranger, a skilled warrior of the wilderness
  • The shaman, with otherworldly new abilities and an animal spirit guide
  • The battle scion, a master of sword and spell
  • The white necromancer, wielding death magic for the side of Good
  • The elven archer, deadly ranged fighter capable of astonishing feats of marksmanship
  • The savant, master of all trades (if only for an instant)
  • The all-new theurge class, combining arcane and divine power!

You can check out the NPC's product page right here on Paizo.com as well:
New Paths Compendium

Sorry for the part relevant post / part thread jack!


Ya know, I'd love an opportunity to untangle the tinker and redo about half a dozen small to medium issues that have cropped up throughout its Suburbia-like development. A new edition of some sort would give me precisely the excuse to do this.

I'm all for this, though I may just try to get my upcoming Gadgeteer and the Tinker printed together in a softcover for the same effect.

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Endzeitgeist wrote:

Designers of classes I consider very capable/that have thoroughly impressed me in the past:

-Owen K.C. Stephens (D'unh)
-Steven D. Russell (D'unh no.2)
-Reid Stewart (Swordmaster, Puppetmaster...)
-Bradley Crouch (Tinker, Herbalist, etc.)
-David Nicholas Ross (Covenant Magic!!)
-Alexander Augunas (Pact Magic!!)
-Will McCardell (Tactical Archetypes with Benjamin Rombeaut, development of MANY ideas/classes etc.)
-Jeremy Smith & Andreas Rönnqvist (Psionics Expanded - OMG, the crunch is glorious)
-Marc Radle (Spell-less Ranger, White Necromancer etc.)
-Morgan Boehringer (Direlock!)

Not sure which one of the designers did Alluria's Aquanaut, but that person as well. Same goes for James Olchak and Brian Berg's cooperative Malefactor.

I'm humbled every time my work is mentioned in this thread.


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I would also like to thank Thilo for the recommendation, especially with a relatively unknown product compared to the other giants listed.


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I wonder what it would take to get Rich Burlew to put the Dashing Swordsman in this thing.


Dreadfox has a class called the Ritualist that has a lot of interesting potential. It's a hard class to play properly but it can really pay off if you do it well.

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Will McCardell wrote:
I would also like to thank Thilo for the recommendation, especially with a relatively unknown product compared to the other giants listed.

Pretty much exactly what I would have said Will. Thanks End, and I agree with everyone you mentioned...

Silver Crusade

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Thanks for the honor of suggesting my name Endzeitgeist, especially by including me among so many talented big names of the industry !

Interjection Games wrote:
I wonder what it would take to get Rich Burlew to put the Dashing Swordsman in this thing.

Incidentally, I may have some WIP for Dreadfox Games's great Swordmaster class in The Secrets of Renegade Archetypes II. Something based on Charisma and awesomeness...


I am glad this is generating such interest.

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