Elemental body IV + Enlarge person + Rigteous might = Colossal?
Elemental body makes me Huge, Gantuan with enlarge person and Righteous might would make me Colossal
Since only elemental body it's a polymorph spell and the other two are transmutation, it would stack, no?
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You cannot combine polymorph spells with size increases.
Paizo PRD: Magic Chapter: Transmutation School: Polymorph Sub-School:
You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.
Also,
Target: one humanoid creature
Elemental =/= humanoid.
edit: removed an unnecessary jerky comment.
But Elemental Body doesn't change your type.Also,
Target: one humanoid creatureElemental =/= humanoid.
Well then I feel MUCH better about leaving out my snarky comment.
I don't see that in a quick glance over the polymorph rules or the EB spell description. Can you point me toward your source?
I don't see that in a quick glance over the polymorph rules or the EB spell description. Can you point me toward your source?
Polymorph states you take the form of another creature. No where does it say you change type.
Polymorph states you take the form of another creature. No where does it say you change type.I don't see that in a quick glance over the polymorph rules or the EB spell description. Can you point me toward your source?
So you're saying that if I turn into a magical beast, I'm not susceptible to hold monster, but I would be to hold person? Seems kinda wonky.
Polymorph states you take the form of another creature. No where does it say you change type.I don't see that in a quick glance over the polymorph rules or the EB spell description. Can you point me toward your source?
So you're saying that if I turn into a magical beast, I'm not susceptible to hold monster, but I would be to hold person? Seems kinda wonky.
In 3.5 polymorph spells actually changed your type. In Pathfinder they just change your appearance so even if you turn into a magical beast you are still subject to hold person.
As for hold monster it affects humanoids and every other creature that is not immune to it.
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Elemental body IV + Enlarge person + Rigteous might = Colossal?
Elemental body makes me Huge, Gantuan with enlarge person and Righteous might would make me Colossal
Since only elemental body it's a polymorph spell and the other two are transmutation, it would stack, no?
I wish.
There are multiple qualifications. Huge is the biggest you get as far as I know. You're right about one is Polymorph, and one is Transmutation, allowing them to stack. However, you can only have ONE size enhancement and one Damage size enhancement. You take whichever effect is great of each.
Meaning Wildshape to Huge + Strong Jaw > Everything else and therefore replaces it. You could hit colossal damage at that point. Wildshape is bumping you up 2 sizes, and Strong Jaw is bumping up your damage 2 sizes. So anything else that increases your size or damage size, would be replaced by these two.
bad example. Let's say I cast plant shape to become a plant creature. I get hit with a Horrid Wilting. Do I take 1d6 per caster level or 1d8 per caster level?
bad example. Let's say I cast plant shape to become a plant creature. I get hit with a Horrid Wilting. Do I take 1d6 per caster level or 1d8 per caster level?
You would take the same amount of damage as if you had not cast plant shape.
Source?
Source?
My initial response is that no source is needed. However, reading Horrid Wilting, it is a bit less clear since it does not call out plant type creatures. That said, I think the text "plant creatures" is clearly referring to the type of creature. (As a matter of fact, d20pfsrd.org's horrid wilting text links the word "plant" to the plant type text.) And as mentioned previously, you don't actually gain the type of creatures, only their appearance, when using polymorph spells and effects.
If you want to see what others might say about this specific question, I'd recommend a new thread, since we're quite a ways off the original topic of this thread.
