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Buy a bow.
Put Feats into using it.
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Profit.
Hrm. Assuming 20 PB I'd go with something like:
Str: 10 (includes -4 Str)
Dex: 18 (with +2 Dex)
Con: 11 (with -2 Con)
Int: 7
Wis: 7
Cha: 16
Points are a bit tight, so you're quite the dumbass, but your saves don't suffer greatly because of your Cha (and you'll buy the headband later), while you've got a solid to-hit.
Somebody else might have a better array, but that's how I'd go.
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Hrm. Assuming 20 PB I'd go with something like:
Str: 10 (includes -4 Str)
Dex: 18 (with +2 Dex)
Con: 11 (with -2 Con)
Int: 7
Wis: 7
Cha: 16Points are a bit tight, so you're quite the dumbass, but your saves don't suffer greatly because of your Cha (and you'll buy the headband later), while you've got a solid to-hit.
Somebody else might have a better array, but that's how I'd go.
This array with the divine hunter and warrior of the holy light archetypes. You be a ranged character, and you give up the spells your low wisdom won't let you cast for extra lay on hands.
This array with the divine hunter and warrior of the holy light archetypes. You be a ranged character, and you give up the spells your low wisdom won't let you cast for extra lay on hands.
Pathfinder Paladins cast with Charisma, not Wisdom like in 3rd. And you really really want spells as a Paladin because of Litany of Righteousness.
Also, in my experience, Divine Hunter is suboptimal. You get your archery stuff one feat sooner, but lose out on really nice stuff later, and perhaps worst of all, you lose the ability to take the Oath of Vengeance.
Also, another thing that bothers me; paladins have to act honorably and not lie or anything, right? But a lot of races hate kobolds and it's not unlikely that a kobold might get attacked on sight--I would figure using Disguise or a Hat of Disguise would help bypass this, but I'm not sure if that counts as lying. What good is using your awesome Diplomacy score if most anything attacks you on sight?
Wuss.
But seriously I wouldn't go that route as a paladin. If you are attacked on sight then fine, defend yourself, we're assuming you're part of a group right? Are they going to attack a kobold and his three pretty much regular friends? Who are armed and dangerous? Probably not.
So yeah sure you're not going to be invited to any gnomish parties. But to me the point of playing an outlier race with such a class is having to put up with the discrimination. If you try to hide behind that than not only are you sort of skirting the edges of being deceptive but you are avoiding a lot of excellent role playing opportunities by being "out of the caves" with your kobold. Anyway, just my two cents.
As to build?
I suggest just using a vanilla paladin using Oath of Vengeance to get as many Smite's as possible. Definitely find as many alternate sources of damage as possible. Your lack of con wont be felt as hard because you have lay on hands. So just be careful with how often you smite versus how often you need to lay on hands.
NExt seriously consider Dervish Dance. You'll have Dex, but no strength so that's certainly an option.
The issue with guns is that they cot too damn much for what you get. Better I think to just smack people hard with a scimitar backed by lots of smites than try to overcomplicate things with firearms.
Beyond that we free up a lot of feats. Some favorites of mine include Unsanctioned Knowledge which let's you pick up spells like Good Hope, Gallant Inspiration, and Mirror Image to name a few. There's also the distinctive possibility of putting some offensive touch spells on your list and putting Spel Storing on your scimitar as an alternate means of pumping out harsh justice.
What else? Redeemed Kobold as you mentioned seems great RP wise but if you do decide on the oath of vengeance route won't really work out for you. Kobold Confidence is also really really good BUT for you it's mainly Great Fortitude+ since you already get Charisma and Constitution to your fort saves.
Eldritch Heritage is most certainly an option for you in the long game when you can get it. Boreal and Thunderborn cna give you further weapon buffs, Arcane can give you a companion which you can eventually push to somethign better via Improved Familiar to get a flank buddy to work with.
Hope this gives some good ideas.
Finesse Paladin, it works with a kobold.
Either you roll a very good stat array, or do an archer Paladin.
TWF finesse paladin? Adding more hits to take advantage of smite evil's static bonuses could possibly help close the gap to some degree.
The stats I rolled for my Tiefling Necromancer, who is a priestess of Pharasma, were 18, 17, 15, 15, 14, 14.
With an array like that, even a Kobold could make a decent melee Paladin, though he'd be weak until he gets a stat boosting belt.
However, he can always rely on ranged weapons until he gets said boost. I have yet to hear of a Paladin being an effective switch-hitter, though.
Beg your DM to let you use the Midgard Kobold pc race with the options from ARG. Then think about going the Dervish Dance route.
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There is a new feat in Kobolds of Golarion:
Small But Deadly that effectively removes your Strength penalty when using any weapon you have Weapon Focus in. That, to me, makes kobold Barbarians, Paladins, and Cavaliers viable.
Ask your dm to use the rules from super genius games The kobold kings for your racial bonuses (combines well with paizo material). They make amazing paladins.
There is a new feat in Kobolds of Golarion:
Small But Deadly that effectively removes your Strength penalty when using any weapon you have Weapon Focus in. That, to me, makes kobold Barbarians, Paladins, and Cavaliers viable.
Seems to still not be too good. I read it as to mean it just removes the minus to attack and damage if you have a low strength,where as the Dervish route turns your Dex bonus into + to hit and damage. Turning Str into a dump stat.
The Midgard Kobold gets a +4 to Dex so a 18 Dex turns into 22 (+6 to hit and Damage).
Still limited due to size but seems more doable than other options.
There is a new feat in Kobolds of Golarion:
Small But Deadly that effectively removes your Strength penalty when using any weapon you have Weapon Focus in. That, to me, makes kobold Barbarians, Paladins, and Cavaliers viable.Seems to still not be too good. I read it as to mean it just removes the minus to attack and damage if you have a low strength,where as the Dervish route turns your Dex bonus into + to hit and damage. Turning Str into a dump stat.
The Midgard Kobold gets a +4 to Dex so a 18 Dex turns into 22 (+6 to hit and Damage).
Still limited due to size but seems more doable than other options.
In the super genius games kobold kings, there is an alternate racial trait for Koldemar (PC level Kobold Race) called Dragon Folk. It makes them medium sized, and with +2str and +2 charisma. With that racial trait, the Race is Medium, with darkvision, +2 natural armor and +2str/+2cha with no penalty. Superb paladin material if you ask me. Make them metailic scaled too and you have literal shining examples of goodness out there.
You are right. With those mods and size they would rock. That said they don't seem very Koboldish to me,more like a Dragoborn/Dragonkin.
You are right. With those mods and size they would rock. That said they don't seem very Koboldish to me,more like a Dragoborn/Dragonkin.
They are kind of that way, they sort of bridge the gap between kobolds and their dragon kin. However the standard Koldemar (super genius pc level kobold) has +2 dex, +2 cha, -2 str and are small, which is still fairly koboldy, these Dragonkin Koldemar are an alternate ratial trait for the big bad warriors of the group.
I'd go with Dervish Dance.
I'd go with Dervish Dance.Dervish dance is sort of an awful option. Obviously, you get Agile as your second enchantment, but the goal here is to get a lot of attacks for you to put your big modifiers from Smite onto.
You can only use Dervish Dance if you don't wield a weapon/shield in your off-hand. So it taxes you a feat, robs you of a shield or extra attack, and all it costs to replace is a +1 bonus.
OTOH:
1- you don't take a -2 to all attacks2- You don't have to spend a bunch of feats. It's just Weapon Finesse + DD instead of Weapon Finesse + TWF + ITWF + GTWF + Whatever else. Paladins are very feat starved. Especially non-human Paladins.
3- It's much cheaper than enchanting 2 weapons (it costs at least 16600gp to have 2 Agile weapons)
4- Works with any scimitar, and it's easier/cheaper to have backup scimitars than backup Agile weapons (those cost at least 8300gp and rely on a very specific and relatively rare enchantment)
5- You can use armor spikes to TWF with Dervish Dance anyway... Agile Armor Spikes, even. (By RAW you don't even need to make them Agile, but I'm guessing RAI is that DD only affects the scimitar)
6 - It makes you SADer. No need to invest in Str at all. (Although reducing the penalty a little to be able o carry your armor is a good idea)
DD is pretty much the one feat that makes Dueling a viable combat style. And a Dueling Kobold Paladin sounds awesome! :D
I think it might be cool to TWF/Dervish Dance with the Kobold Tail Attachments.
I think Piranha Strike doesn't work with scimitars.
I think Piranha Strike doesn't work with scimitars.Sadly, you may be correct... Dervish dance doesn't say to treat the scimitar as a light weapon :-(. I mistakenly thought it applies to finesseable weapons. I would houserule otherwise, but that's not the point of a sample character.
Weapon Finesse doesn't work with Scimitar either.... ^^
Luckly, DD allows you to add Dex instead of Str to both attack and damage rolls. It just happens to have Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite, but still, Scimitaras are not finessable... hehThere is a "cheat". Buy a Scimitar 1 size category smaller than you. You can use it as a light weapon... Don't be surprised when your GM gives you a ¬¬' look. But hey, you can at least argue that you have a smaller damage die to balance for it.
Combat Reflexes and (later) Improved Critical are great feats.
Also, don't forget Fey Foundling. Get +2 HP per die of LoH is really awesome! And a +2 to all saves against Death effects is not bad either.
I think it might be cool to TWF/Dervish Dance with the Kobold Tail Attachments.
5- You can use armor spikes to TWF with Dervish Dance anyway... Agile Armor Spikes, even. (By RAW you don't even need to make them Agile, but I'm guessing RAI is that DD only affects the scimitar
....a tiny whirling holy terror! This might result in ten attacks at higher levels... With smite, that could actually help it keep up with other builds.
Any particular rules against using TWF with multiple different types of weapons?
