How do i get the Half-Umbral Dragon template?

[jesse delcarlo]

I want to get this template but my dm is very knit picky about everything so how would you guys go about getting this template? any ideas or a full walkthrough would be appreciated

[Are]

PCs typically can't get templates other than by their GM handing it to them in some way that GM is happy with (only a few templates include rules for how to get it, like the Lich template; most templates require the character to be born with it). If your GM doesn't want your PC to have a template (which is understandable), then there's really nothing you can do.

Perhaps your GM would be swayed if you come up with a really good reason for why your PC has the template. Even if the GM is swayed, and does grant the template, he/she would likely require your character to be at a lower level than the other PCs to compensate for the added power.

[jesse delcarlo]

My gm said that if we can find a in game legal way to get it we can have it. i had a chance to get lycanthropy but i passed on it because im not interested in it. im playing a character that is obsessed with dragons and wants to be one.

[DragoDorn]

If you want your GM to give you a CR +2 template, ask him if he would be willing to make it a high powered campaign and give the other party members CR template equal to the one you want.

If you're the only one with a template, it's not a very fair game for the other players.

[Are]

jesse delcarlo wrote:

My gm said that if we can find a in game legal way to get it we can have it.

Well, the 3.5 version of the Dragon Disciple PrC gave the character the Half-Dragon template at the final class level. Perhaps you can convince your GM to use that version of the PrC instead of the Pathfinder version.

Alternately, even the Pathfinder version of that PrC (which is otherwise more useful than the 3.5 version) grants you some aspects of a dragon, and eventually the ability to take on dragon form (as by the form of the dragon spells).

I can't think of any other in-game ways to get a template, beyond using a wish or miracle spell.

[jesse delcarlo]

Im actually planning on taking the Dragon Disciple prestige class but the pathfinder version. my gm is only allowing pathfinder content

[Choon]

Ask if you can swap out the Form of the Dragon spells for the actual template. If he says no, offer to make the stat increases not stack. So the stat increases from the PrC would "roll over" into the template, so to speak, not stack with them.

[jesse delcarlo]

hmm ill see what he says about that thank you

[Claxon]

Basically, there is no RAW way to acquire the template and everything is GM fiat territory. You might be able to convince him that you could use a wish or a miracle to convert two character levels into being a half dragon, but there is no written way that outlines how to acquire this template. That being said, you're DM shouldn't let you acquire a template unless he wants to allow everyone in the game to acquire a template as well. The perks you obtain from having a template are usually more useful than their CR increase would indicate (especially if a player gets to choose it).

[ShadowcatX]

If your GM is open to 3rd party material, there is an archetype for the dragon rider (I'd have to look up the name of the book it is in) to allow the dragon rider to give up its draconic mount in order to shapeshift into said dragon. Umbral isn't one of the options, but it wouldn't be hard to home brew.

[VRMH]

Obviously the only real way to become a half-Umbral Dragon is to go back in time and give your mother some advice on how to get herself a handsome Umbral Dragon on the side...

[Lincoln Hills]

I dunno why anyone would want half-Umbral dragon when you could get half-Magma Dragon instead. You'd get to look like (the Peter Jackson version of) the Balrog! Plus your party doesn't ever need a campfire: they can just toast their marshmallows over you.