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Okay, I am really liking both the Scion of Humanity Aasimar(Azata-Blooded), and the Nature Oracle for this.
For traits, I am considering the Militia Veteran, and the Mount trait to gain a Dort Charger Horse. I also like the Totem Guide companion archetype.
For the first level feat, I am considering Huntmaster or Celestial Servant.
What do you think?
Should I multiclass later?

Lab_Rat |

Well, after putting out my build (Nature Oracle is the best choice IMO) I have decided that I am going to steal your concept for PFS. I have been kicking around the idea of the Nature Oracle with an awesome mount but my initial build included Mammoth Rider and I couldn't see how a huge mount would work well in PFS. In addition, it makes the mount way to strong and it becomes a show stealer. However, I absolutely love the idea of optimizing a plain old horse. It's right up my alley for character concepts in that it takes something that most people avoid or find non-optimized and makes it awesome.

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I am willing to struggle through with urban adventures. The Narrow Frame feat will ride my Horse of squeezing penalties.
Besides, I intend for him to be of royal breeding.
Also, the Awakened Horse thing is really a no go.
Due to some horrible experiences in the past, no one can play an awakened animal.

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Wouldn't you rather have an AMAZING HORSEinstead of an awesome horse?
They taste just like raisins.

c873788 |

c873788 wrote:Ranks in climb, then Spider Climb.What does your horse do when it comes to a ladder in a dungeon or needs to climb down a rope? He'll be as useless as the Daleks, supreme masters of the universe.
I'm having a terrible time trying to visualise this, but if you can achieve it by RAW then more kudos to you.

Lab_Rat |

What does your horse do when it comes to a ladder in a dungeon or needs to climb down a rope? He'll be as useless as the Daleks, supreme masters of the universe.
The same way the Daleks do it....Air Walk up that sucker. Best Choice? Horseshoes of Mist. 10 min (spent in 1 min intervals) of gaseous form for both you and the horse per day. Not only can you handle ladders but also giant cliffs, locked doors, smaller than medium passages, and imminent doom.

Lab_Rat |

I am willing to struggle through with urban adventures. The Narrow Frame feat will ride my Horse of squeezing penalties.
Besides, I intend for him to be of royal breeding.
Also, the Awakened Horse thing is really a no go.
Due to some horrible experiences in the past, no one can play an awakened animal.
Well now I have to buy that darn book.
Oh...as far as the horse talking goes: You can talk to it as a Nature Oracle but if you want to have the rest of your party understand your Amazing/Awesome Horse you can buy a waist slot and then give it a Belt of Dwarvenkind. Now you have a Dwarven Awesome Horse who gets free perception checks to spot stone secret doors.

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I had actually consider the Belt of Dwarvenkind, but then I discovered this:
Circlet of Speaking
Source: Animal Archive pg. 26
Aura: faint divination; CL 4th
Slot: headband; Price 4,800 gp; Weight 1 lb.
Description:
This thin, silver circlet allows an animal wearing it to speak, even if it is not normally capable of doing so because of its low Intelligence score or lack of known languages. The creator of the item decides what language the circlet’s wearer can speak when she crafts the item (typically Common); once crafting is complete, this cannot be changed. A circlet of speaking does not grant an animal a bonus to Intelligence, and the wearer’s general behavior remains largely the same while it wears a circlet of speaking, though it can communicate its desires and rudimentary knowledge as though being spoken to via speak with animals.
Construction:
Requirements: Craft Wondrous Item, speak with animals; Cost 2,400gp

c873788 |

Alcomus wrote:What about a baleful polymorphed fighter who USED to be human, but is now horse?That is actually worse.
We had a Baleful Polymorphed player(Cat).
He is no longer allowed in any game, or at anyone's home, or at anyone's work.
Bad memories.
My imagination is letting me down today. Honestly, I can't think of anything a player could do to get banned if all he was roleplaying was a cat??

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My imagination is letting me down today. Honestly, I can't think of anything a player could do to get banned if all he was roleplaying was a cat??
Imagine the worst person you ever gamed with. Increase the horror by 10.
Now, imagine the person getting worse, in behavior, and hygiene, over time.
One of the last times any of us was around him, I was drunk, tried to throw him off a cliff, and everyone's response was "well, you didn't succeed, and if you did, we would have understood, so it's cool".
Now, the only time he comes up in conversation, is when someone asks "dude, I cannot believe you never beat the crap out of that guy".
This always catches me off guard, as not only am I not a violent guy, but often the go to mediator of conflicts.
So, bad memories.
No awakened animal PCs.

mdt |

I know I'm a bit late, but may I suggest a summoner? And no, before you dog pile, I did read the first part of the thread.
Play a Unicorn or Pegasus. The eidelon is this little boring humanoid guy that looks kind of like a cross between a goblin and a human. He grooms you, feeds you, does all the boring stuff. If you go this route, I'd go with the summoner concept, IE: use the heck out of the SLA. Dismiss him when it comes to combat (you're useless Max, go hide) and then bust out the SLA summons. Keep him in the background, and put most of his evolution points into skills and mental stat boosts, make him the book keeper, the diplomat, the sales clerk for your awesome kick butt unicorn or pegasus. :)

mdt |

Seattle bro.
Moving on.
Unicorn or Pegasus is a no go, both in concept, and in what's allowed.
It's all about the Horse. Not an Eidolon.
I guess you could see it as a Son of Shadowfax build.
Alan Dean Foster had this series of short stories about this wizard in the old west. He had this mean old piebald horse that he had to take a rasp to every few months when the horn would start to grow back in. :)

AtomicGamer |

I'd say human druid, taking eye for talent to increase the mounts int to 4.
The druid himself would be an advisor type of background character (he could buff, heal, etc. but wouldn't be a central figure) the horse would be more proactive.
Later, when the druid has enough levels to cast awaken, he could awaken the horse and you'd take over the horse as a full pc, leting the druid fade into the background as a less and less important npc.

Craig Frankum |

Aasimar isn't really "simple, boring guy." I'd take human and the Eye for Talent racial trait, which will let you give your animal companion a +2 bonus to one of its ability scores. Your classes that you can actually use animal companions will limit you, but of them Druid might be the best for all of the buffs you could theoretically give your horse.
Although, playing a sorcerer with the sylvan bloodline (meaning you get an animal companion) could be hilarious. If you want to awaken the animal, druid would be better though. Maybe Mystic Theurge between the two? Ultimately up to you.
*Goes off to check if you can cast anthropomorphic animal on a horse.
Eye for Talent is good, but if you went with a cavalier as an Aasimar & took the Celestial Servant feat, then you'ld have a celestial mount.

Craig Frankum |

blackbloodtroll wrote:Heh - what about a little switch, making the rider go away instead?Problem with the Eidolon, is that it goes away.
Basically, it's gotta be something that is there 24/7.
Now, the rider/master doesn't need to be boring, but he simply not the focus.
An "Awakened" animal can't serve as animal companion and thus would loose all the benefits it possessed as the more significant creature.

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I don't know. The Aasimar Nature Oracle is looking pretty good right now.
With the starting 6 intelligence, ability to have both the Huntmaster and Celestial Servant feat, and favored class bonus pumping the Horse, it seems pretty good.
I am not sure about any multiclassing would help, but if there is something I am missing, let me know.