Oh wow I forgot about Scion of Humanity...
Beast Bonded WitchI don't see where the 24/7 Horse comes into play.
Are there Horse familiars?
No, but both the Witch and the Familiar can take over other bodies.
Both. Neither. They could even take turns.
Why can't you just give class levels to the horse? And make him the PC? Howndoesnyour DM feel about his idea. And also bravo! This is almost I not better then your southern gentelmen lizard man fighter
Aasimar Oracle of Nature with the bonded mount revelation, Scion of Humanity alternate racial trait, and the Celestial Servant and Huntmaster feats seems to be a solid build. Who else can say my horse has energy resistance, spell resistance, and can smite evil? Besides, later levels give it improved resistances and damage reductions. Just use your actual character to buff the horse & your good. Also, the lame or clouded vision curse would make you rely on the mount even more. It could be your powerful legs or your eyes to steer you clear of danger.
Those 2 Curses means your Horse will now shine more often than the PC.
My Oracle Player is a Clouded Vision/Deaf Dwarf. Priceless given his Mount is described as a Massive Ass and the main focus. Built to be a Master with a Quarterstaff.
Okay. Let's get the race selected first.
Human, or Scion of Humanity Aasimar?
Stick with Aasimar. The Oracle favoured class option means that your mount is a level 18 companion when your Oracle is only level 12.
Will this game allow any 3.5 material? Because the mount as character with the pc as fashion accessory build was dead easy in 3.5. Won't be able to get away with companion / mount dual build cheese since they're the same thing now, but could probably swing familiar / mount dual build cheese for much the same purpose.
Looking at everything mentioned in the thread so far it really looks like the Nature Oracle is the only way you're going to get a single companion mount above your level. You could certainly dip Cavalier and Sorcerer and use the items you linked earlier to get multiple mounts or varying abilities, but I doubt that that would work well (unless you want to have Son of Shadowfax's burgeoning harem following along).
No 3.5, unless it's the early 3.5 Pathfinder stuff.
Then I think Oracle / Sohei is the most effective you're going to be able to achieve. Go Oracle 12 / Sohei 8 and get one of your companion effective level boosts at character level 19.
I assume he means this:
At 4th level, a sohei may spend 1 point from his ki pool to grant his mount temporary hit points equal to twice his level for 1 hour per level. In addition, as long as the sohei and his mount are adjacent, including when mounted, the mount gains any of the following abilities the sohei possesses: AC bonus, diamond soul, evasion, high jump, improved evasion, ki strike (as long as the sohei has at least 1 point in his ki pool), perfect self, and still mind. When a sohei spends points from his ki pool, his mount gains the same benefits as the sohei. This ability replaces fast movement and increased unarmed damage.
I'm not sure why you would want to continue taking levels in Sohei after getting it, though.
Why Sohei?
That seems real odd to add Monk.
Explain please.
Because you need something to do with the last six levels after you max out your companion at Oracle level 14, and Sohei is the only thing I can think of that can add benefits to whatever mount rather than adding a new companion. The only other option I can see is to dip into other companion-granting classes and accumulate your main mount a small herd of friends who will get ganked quickly in a high level game.
Couldn't I just nab some Monk's Robes to the Horse?
I suppose so, but it's not going to do much. The horse isn't a monk and doesn't have stunning fist, so all it's going to do is give it a +1 untyped AC and a 1d8 unarmed strike which it'll never use because it's busy kicking and biting.
What about Cavalier for the last levels?
I have no experience with the class, but it seems very Mount friendly.
It is, but if you take it, you'll now have two mounts, one as a 20th level companion and one as a 6th level companion. There's unfortunately nothing in any of the mount or companion granting classes about stacking the companions from different classes, so as far as I can tell, multiclassing into various companion and mount granting classes just gets more companions.
That's not how that works.
The levels just stack. There is no extra mount.
You actually need to go out of your way to get a special archetype to get multiple Companions/Mounts.
That makes sense to me, but the total lack of any text indicating that they stack if you already have one led me to assume the opposite.
In that case, there's still no point in multiclassing into another mount granting class, because the animal companion chart stops at level 20; either you're not getting any more benefit, or you house rule in another 10 rows and stay in Oracle to max the mount out at level 30 instead.
On another note, I did think of another option besides Sohei; you could get five levels of Rough Rider fighter for some extra perks.
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Both of those mounts function a Druid's Animal Companion.
In the Core, under the Animal Companion rules in the Druid entry:
The druid's class levels stack with levels of any other classes that are entitled to an animal companion for the purpose of determining the companion's statistics.
Find it here.
Both of those mounts function a Druid's Animal Companion.
In the Core, under the Animal Companion rules in the Druid entry:
The druid's class levels stack with levels of any other classes that are entitled to an animal companion for the purpose of determining the companion's statistics.Find it here.
Ah. Well, that solves that. But you're still going to cap it when you hit Oracle 14 and need to find something that doesn't directly boost it's companion level. (Or houserule the chart up to level 30, which wouldn't actually be that hard if your DM is amenable.)
My reading was that the extra levels the Mount counted as from Oracle, would just overlap, and not exactly stack, with Cavalier Mount levels.
There's an FAQ out that says if the animal companion is one that does not qualify for the cavalier's mount ability, then you do in fact get two. I shall edit in a link here in a sec.
EDIT: the link
wild shaped druid horse who takes leadership to acquire John Smith.Great minds think alike.
If going this way you could take the squire feat instead of leadership to get your rider at 3rd level.
That is still the man, and not the horse.
What about a Nature Mystery Oracle?
The 6 intelligence is inviting.
Yes, yes, yes!
If you pick aasimar you get a 50% boost to it's level - now that is awesome.
I have a level 10 aasimar nature oracle with a level 15 attack Camel. He spits arse!
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aasimar, scion of humanity, oracle of nature (any archetype works, but you need the 7th level revelation for the Bonded mount)
feats:
racial heritage (half elf)
skill focus (Any know)
nature soul
animal ally
eldritch heritage (arcane bloodline)
spells: paragon surge
take favored class bonus for oracle for +1/2 level for the revelation bonded mount, but dont take bonded mount ability until 7th
you now have a mount who's level is (level+ 1/2 level)+ (level-3)
19th level companion at 9th
or 22nd level at 10th
paragon surge spell to get improved eldritch heritage feat, or extra spell feat for oracle
Congrats, you know have an epic level mount, and can cast any cleric/oracle and wizard/sorcerer spell in the book of a level you are capable of casting
you could also take the huntmaster feat to add 1 more level to the companion, but its not REALLY worth it.
celestial companion feat is nice to pick up at 11th
Hmm, missed this thread the first time around!
Click my portrait to see my take on the concept. I don’t think I came up with any mechanics not mentioned here, but you might find the background concept interesting.
Note that my goal was to have an awesome companion from day one, not to eventually have a level bazillion mount. Going human, taking Huntsmaster at level one and using Eye for Talent to bump up my companion’s strength made it pretty impressive...check out the early combats in the PBM for a fair sample. Buffing it with Share Spells was probably overkill at low levels. My plan for high levels was to optimize for Improved Share Spells.
And here's the companion.
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Well, I believe there is something like Friend to Animals that gives CHA to saves for friendly animals within 30 feet, and then anything giving bonuses to Handle Animal would be nice. Could go with the Wolfscarred Muzzle to grant the magic weapon spells, and perhaps Deaf to counter the spell failure chance.