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I'd look into the Kinslayer, which is an archetype for a Dhampir Inquisitor. Seeing as D was a dhampir, should fit nicely.
Source: Advanced Race Guide.
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What class would he be and stats? I've thought paladin but he's not really a holy warrior. Then ranger but he's more of a two handed wielder than two weapon fighter. Fighter seemed good but he has some magic. And magus just doesn't seem right for some reason but maybe it'll work. Any ideas or recommendations?
Well going the ranger you could always go Two-Handed
Two-Handed Weapon
If the Ranger selects two-handed weapon style, he can choose from the following list whenever he gains a combat style feat:
Cleave, Power Attack, Pushing Assault, and Shield of Swings.
At 6th level, he adds Furious Focus and Great Cleave to the list.
At 10th level, he adds Dreadful Carnage and Improved Sunder to the list.
Vampire Hunter Inquisitor? Oath against the Undead Paladin.
Sorry I would link but I am on my phone. And it has been a while since I read/watched VHD.
I've thought about building him as a cavalier.
Basically, His left hand is a Major Intelligent Artifact. Something similar to an Intelligent Hand Of Vecna.
Not a katana, but a nodachi.
What about stats with a 20 point buy?
Str 16 (10), Dex 16 (5), Con 12 (5), Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 12
That said, I think his stats would be much higher (as would most literary characters; converting our favorite fiction into d20/Pathfinder never lives up to our expectations).
Legendary Point Buy: 30 Points.
Or do the 75 full Stat Points all Stats start at 0 and are increased on a 1-For-1 basis.
I think exercises like this work better if you start by listing all of the special things you see the character do, and then working from there.
He can jump really far.
He can use his cape to prevent falling (VHD2).
He breaks from the grapple and pin of the 3 snake women, but I don't recall how (it's been a while).
He uses his hand to consume a bunch of monsters.
His hand revives him (stabilizes? uses Cure whatever Wounds? casts Raise Dead? or Break Enchantment?).
His hand annoys the hell out of him (first movie), or us (second movie).
He can sense enemies coming (Perception?), and find the hidden creature in a bunch of creatures.
He killed a whole room of things, and I vaguely recall him doing so NOT by dicing them up.
He likes to jump and attack.
He breaks from the telekinesis of a vampire lord (high saves? save reroll? Break Enchantment/Dispel Magic?).
He's quite skilled with his bigass sword (not a katana).
He can ride a horse and jump from a horse's back, though I don't think we ever see him fighting while mounted.
He can Snatch Arrows.
I'm pretty sure I'm missing some things.
I think exercises like this work better if you start by listing all of the special things you see the character do, and then working from there.
He can jump really far.
He can use his cape to prevent falling (VHD2).
He breaks from the grapple and pin of the 3 snake women, but I don't recall how (it's been a while).
He uses his hand to consume a bunch of monsters.
His hand revives him (stabilizes? uses Cure whatever Wounds? casts Raise Dead? or Break Enchantment?).
His hand annoys the hell out of him (first movie), or us (second movie).
He can sense enemies coming (Perception?), and find the hidden creature in a bunch of creatures.
He killed a whole room of things, and I vaguely recall him doing so NOT by dicing them up.
He likes to jump and attack.
He breaks from the telekinesis of a vampire lord (high saves? save reroll? Break Enchantment/Dispel Magic?).
He's quite skilled with his bigass sword (not a katana).
He can ride a horse and jump from a horse's back, though I don't think we ever see him fighting while mounted.
He can Snatch Arrows.I'm pretty sure I'm missing some things.
The new Mythic rule set for PCs would cover a lot of these I think. It would also help to differentiate him from normal dhampirs. Personally, I think he would work great as an inquisitor.
Seconding RD's suggestion of a Mythic Dhampir Inquisitor.
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1076824
Still in process
He also has the ability to release his full vampiric power that vastly increases his strength, not sure how you might represent that though.
He also has the ability to release his full vampiric power that vastly increases his strength, not sure how you might represent that though.
Judgment Surge covers this somewhat. Favored Judgment covers his ability to take vampires as easily as he does.
As Divine casting doesn't have failure of somatic components in armor, he could just gain heavy armor proficiency and be covered.
He also has the Tumor Familiar Alchemist Discovery.
Mythic covers a lot of what D is capable of.
D would be extremely hard to model in Pathfinder... some defining traits about him:
Among the best swordsmen in existence
Wears armor without any apparent encumbrance
Extremely knowledgeable
His left hand can consume supernatural effects and is perhaps even more knowledgeable than D
He has an unsurpassed Will save.
Capable of entering a (psychic?) rage
Capable of feats of amazing athletics
I dont think you can do anything like that without Gestalting or being a GMPC.
I think you can get a lot of those down with a Mutation/Eldritch Guardian Fighter, at least the weapons, armor, rage-like ability, (tumor?) familiar and use the mutagen as a rage stand in. Make your familiar a Sage to cover knowledges and grab some extra mutagen effects to pad out his athletic capabilities. It call it close to the concept at least.
I don't know about the whole "hand" thing, but your basically saying someone who can wear armor well and is a great swordsman who is also knowledgeable, athletic, and has strong will can't exist in pathfinder without help from the GM? Haha, what?
If you want to play Vampire Hunter D, don't play Pathfinder. Play something like Exalted or Anima.
If you insist on Pathfinder, an Inquisitor with the Sanctified Slayer and Reaper of Secrets archetypes along with the Possessed Hand line of feats is a good approximation. It'll be more a cosplay of D, but that's the best you can do. The power level in VHD just can't be emulated in Pathfinder. We're talking about a character who throws a wooden stake so fast that it literally lights on fire due to friction with the air - that's simply outside the scope of Pathfinder characters.
The power level in VHD just can't be emulated in Pathfinder. We're talking about a character who throws a wooden stake so fast that it literally lights on fire due to friction with the air - that's simply outside the scope of Pathfinder characters.
That just sounds like a Supernatural Ability (or Extraordinary, doesn't matter) that his thrown weapons can light on fire and deal additional fire damage. Pretty sure there are abilities like this.
I'm know the ability looks cool an all, but it's not all that impressive when put on paper.
The power level in VHD just can't be emulated in Pathfinder. We're talking about a character who throws a wooden stake so fast that it literally lights on fire due to friction with the air - that's simply outside the scope of Pathfinder characters.That just sounds like a Supernatural Ability (or Extraordinary, doesn't matter) that his thrown weapons can light on fire and deal additional fire damage. Pretty sure there are abilities like this.
I'm know the ability looks cool an all, but it's not all that impressive when put on paper.
They don't just light on far. They're thrown with such force that they light on fire due to friction with the air.
You can write down "+1d6 fire damage" but that's not the same. The projectile needs to have an insane amount of force behind it to simply light on fire from friction. Like atmospheric re-entry kinds of force.
My memory is a bit shaky on the books but if I recall some of his opponents can do things like cut the space between particles with a sword to generate explosions. In one of the later novels he gets trapped in a dimensional pocket and simply decides that he doesn't want to be in it anymore and it breaks.
D is a character that is just outside of the power scale of Pathfinder. You can give a character a lot of abilities that are cosmetically similar, but you can't start to capture that sort of power level without moving beyond mythic. It's easier to find a system that is already close to that level of power instead of trying to crank Pathfinder up - especially if you want D to be in a party with other characters.
From the VHD wiki:
D is immortal and over 10,000 years old
D has extreme regeneration even without the aid of his left hand
One shining example of this power is when he allowed himself to be devoured by a group of five true vampires who were former pseudo-nobles, being torn into five major pieces and those pieces then ripped into smaller pieces. He burst forth from the heads of those five separate beings and reformed effortlessly without the aid of Left Hand.
Superhuman Strength exceeding 100 tons.
Superhuman Speed. While not exact, his interactions with other enemies have him travelling above mach 1. He has also dodged attacks that traveled several times faster than the speed of light from reaction speed alone.
Ability to create thralls like a normal vampire
Superhuman Durability. Part of his regeneration. He has been engulfed by a sun and survived no worse for wear.
Has the ability to will his blade to stretch to an infinite length
Genius level intellect
He can destroy wormholes and create dimensional rifts with his sword.
The list goes on for a while, but the point is that a character sheet in Pathfinder for D should just have "I Do What I Want" written in big bold letters.
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Yeah, but ultimately that sort of ability is going to translate into something like "deals +xd6 fire damage." I mean how else do you translate it? It's not something your going to earn from having a high strength score, because it's going to have to come from an ability. That's not even impressive from a power perspective. Mythic characters, if made to do so, can literally throw weapons from the Earth to Pluto and hit dead on target (forgot the names of the powers). Doesn't make sense, but those abilities exist.
Barbarians can dispel magic by attacking while raging. That means that a Barbarian can destroy a demiplane of any size by punching it. Again, it's doable.
Yeah, but ultimately that sort of ability is going to translate into something like "deals +xd6 fire damage." I mean how else do you translate it? It's not something your going to earn from having a high strength score, because it's going to have to come from an ability. That's not even impressive from a power perspective. Mythic characters, if made to do so, can literally throw weapons from the Earth to Pluto and hit dead on target (forgot the names of the powers). Doesn't make sense, but those abilities exist.
Barbarians can dispel magic by attacking while raging. That means that a Barbarian can destroy a demiplane of any size by punching it. Again, it's doable.
I wouldn't translate it, because translating it makes it absurd. That's my point.
For starters, because lighting on fire is a consequence of how hard he throws the stake and not some effect that boosts his damage (which is a different ability that he also has), we'll look at his strength score. Being conservative, let's say 100 tons is a heavy load (and he has no notable magic items in the book that give him an increased load). Based on the Carrying Capacity table his strength score should around 70. That said, he's never used his full physical strength that I can find so 70 is just the closest number I'm comfortable with based on what he does. For comparison, min-max threads usually cap at around 80 as the highest conceivable strength possible.
Speaking of throwing, he does throw his sword thousands of miles on one occasion with accuracy.
In the latest book he also gains the power to alter reality at will.
If that's not dramatically out of scale with everything else in Pathfinder (even Mythic) then I don't know what is. D is like pun-pun levels of broken.
It's only doable if you compromise the character and de-power him to fit in with the system. My point is that that's silly and the goal should be to compromise the character as little as possible, so move over to a system that already has a stupidly high power level. Not everything is meant to be ham-fisted into Pathfinder.
At the very least don't write down "+1d6 fire damage" and treat it like it's anything more than a cosmetic similarity.
I understand that it's the friction that makes the object combust. The only real way to represent that is to have a, most likely, moderately high damaging ranged attack that gains fire damage upon being thrown. By the way, it doesn't have to be limited to only +1d6 fire damage.
100 tons for a character, especially with mythic rules, is pretty easy. Display of Strength adds 20, and Mule's Strength adds 5 that stacks with everything including itself. With items it's almost trivial. From what I remember, the 100 ton thing was a guesstimation from his powerful sword attacks. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
Checkout Limitless Range, Mythic Far Shot, and Mythic Eagle Eyes. You can literally see and attack with a thrown weapon with maximum attack bonuses from any distance. So like I said earlier, Earth to Pluto, if you wanted to.
He can alter reality now? It depends on what degree, I guess. If it's like Miracle and Wish, two spells that are nearly limitless in potential, then that's easily his most powerful ability listed, so far.
I think the Possessed Hand feats are a good approximation for the hand if we have to stick with Pathfinder.
I am not sure you are familiar with the character in question, its a combination of what in pathfinder would be armor training, weapon training, still mind, uncanny dodge, rage, 9th level phsycic casting, improved familiar, bardic lore, trapfinding... that is why it would be difficult to model in Pathfinder. What i was suggesting was taking some of the more common aspects of the character and attempting to copy those.I don't know about the whole "hand" thing, but your basically saying someone who can wear armor well and is a great swordsman who is also knowledgeable, athletic, and has strong will can't exist in pathfinder without help from the GM? Haha, what?D would be extremely hard to model in Pathfinder... some defining traits about him:
Among the best swordsmen in existence
Wears armor without any apparent encumbrance
Extremely knowledgeable
His left hand can consume supernatural effects and is perhaps even more knowledgeable than D
He has an unsurpassed Will save.
Capable of entering a (psychic?) rage
Capable of feats of amazing athletics
I dont think you can do anything like that without Gestalting or being a GMPC.
I think you can get a lot of those down with a Mutation/Eldritch Guardian Fighter, at least the weapons, armor, rage-like ability, (tumor?) familiar and use the mutagen as a rage stand in. Make your familiar a Sage to cover knowledges and grab some extra mutagen effects to pad out his athletic capabilities. It call it close to the concept at least.
I'll be honest, I haven't kept up with the character in years, so whatever new things he can do I might not be familiar with.
There are a few things that can be shaved off on your list, though, especially if we go Bloodrager
Armor Training could be substituted for 3 armor masterys if we go mythic. Honestly I'd rather bite the bullet and find some alternative to that, like magic or something.
Weapon Training isn't needed. It just provides a boost to attack and damage, as a Bloodrager has full base and rage.
Still Mind is just +2 against enchantments. You can still have a good will save without it.
Bloodrager has Uncanny Dodge.
Finding Traps is just Perception. If he has a high Perception it's not entirely needed, though he might have to be actively looking for them if he doesn't have something in his spell list.
I get that converting him isn't the easiest thing to do, that's fine. What does peeve me is when people state that he's too powerful for pathfinder mechanics no matter what, even after I prove that point to be wrong.
Erm, sounds like a ridiculous amount of wish-fulfillment crammed into one character.
Playing a Dhampir Ranger with the Possessed Hand feat line should be plenty enough. Throw in the 1hp/hour ioun stone and you can regrow limbs, too.
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Erm, sounds like a ridiculous amount of wish-fulfillment crammed into one character.
A lot of his stories play off of how wretchedly overpowered he is, yet he remains unable to save those he cares about repeatedly throughout his travels. It's incredibly sad all the time, I had to stop reading the books because they kept bumming me out.
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Erm, sounds like a ridiculous amount of wish-fulfillment crammed into one character.A lot of his stories play off of how wretchedly overpowered he is, yet he remains unable to save those he cares about repeatedly throughout his travels. It's incredibly sad all the time, I had to stop reading the books because they kept bumming me out.
^This.
D isn't a character, he's a plot device.
To be clear, D completely shrugs off being thrown at near speed of light and impacting with almost infinite mass. he just walks it off. nothing in Pathfinder approaches that level of godliness.
When you say nothing in Pathfinder can do that, do you mean just the PCs? There are a number of monsters, not all necessarily powerful ones, that possess abilities that can ignore all damage upon getting hit. By extension, they would be capable of the same thing.
I forget the particular monsters that have this, but I can find them if someone cares to look.
The whole thing on intelligence, take Display of Intelligence and Flash of Omniscience and you'll be the smartest guy around.
I'm not sure what FTL melee attacks look like, as in what are the bonuses? To me, it just sounds like a high attack roll and called FTL. There are monsters that can move at FTL speeds, such as the Solar Dragon or creatures that have Mythic Time Stop. So there's that. If dodging lasers is anything impressive, anyone could make a 4th level Monk with really high touch AC and avoid all laser attacks fired by a group of trained soldiers surrounding the Monk.
Would it be possible to take both the Possessed Hand feat, and Countanced Carbuncle feat?
I'm also AFB for a couple more hours, so I'm not sure. I also wasn't sure of the typing on the bonuses, so I wasn't sure about the stacking. I'm almost picturing both opening feats to create an almost hybrid of D and Ashton from Star Ocean: Second Story. Only with his hands, not dragons.