Iconic Magus? You mean seltyiel? That's a longsword.... always has been.... it's drawn all funky, but on his write up, he uses a longsword.
Where is his newer write up? Most of the ones I have seen were 3.5...
Though I like it better as a Longsword.
@Atarlost: That is one form of Scimitar. If I had to guess it is a Cavalry Blade. The Curve is different based on the region and usage. Most US Military Sabers are actually based on a type of Scimitar we encountered during our "Mercenary" days.
Look at the rune-work. The engraving has to be on a flat portion or it would be ground off sharpening the blade and that means the cutting edge is on the inside of the curve. I repeat, that's not a scimitar.
I was referring to your link.
Does that mean a Khopesh is stupid? A Temple Sword? A True Shotel? A True Sica?
There are many different Scabbard Types.
Also you might want to look at the fact that the Iconics are meant to be unique. Think of how the Gladiators fought. I view her armour as being in that vein.
She is challenging her Opponent. And in the variant rules I am now going to be using as standard it fits perfectly with a description of how they would fight.
By that logic every decorative choice on a weapon is stupid.
& You might want to rethink what you are talking about. The Swords Design is perfectly Functional. Heck, nearly every weapon design can be functional in the hands of one who is willing to learn the weapon.
Though the way he is holding it is backwards... All he needs to do is have a specific type of scabbard for it. The handguard can even be used to Collar the blade in its scabbard.
Ha ha, in my games I actually differentiate between weapons designed to look good, and the ugly purely functional weapons. For some the gloss and appearance matters, others it is all about the blade quality and ruggedness. Worth can vary (the really ceremonial weapons have a lot of gp added to their worth, but they won't have the best enchantments).
Pretty is great, but a setting has to work out what its weapons look like, and how functional everything is, and do many ceremonial weapons actually exist.
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But Parade Gear was made to be functional as well as look pretty. I mean it might just be a basic polished Longsword while the Masterwork Longsword is being saved for Warfare but it is still functional.
Heck, the only difference between the Roman Parade Gear and Combat Gear was the Tunic worn underneath the Armour.
But I love the Right Armour more so than the Left...
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Funny, I picture it as a heavy sabre.Well the magus typically uses a one hand weapon and the elven curve blade is a two hander. I think the magus is holding an aldori dueling sword.....at risk of setting off a riot with all the technical details in this thread, the Aldori Dueling Sword has been pictured as "basically a katana with a western-made hilt and handguard."I'm not referring to what you might think it should look like though - there's actually a picture of this one, in the Inner Sea Primer (Unless you're seriously suggesting that that's a scimitar or falcata.) I suppose you could make the argument, but while the decorations are western, the blade shape is pretty distinctive as is the hilt's overall shape.
Unfortunately, can't find the image right now.
I haven't seen any images of the ADS! I was working off the description.
If you can provide a link to any pictures labelled as specifically an ADS, without the viewer just speculating that it's an ADS, that would be very helpful.
However, the weapon illustrations in the CRB and the preceding PHBs did very little for their credibility of pictoral accuracy.
Inner Sea Primer has a Picture of an Aldori Swordlord next to where it describes the Archetype. It has been confirmed somewhere on these forums that the person is in fact a ASL wielding a ADS.
If you look at the Aldori Swordlord Class Guide (Can't Find Link Right Now) the very first Image is the same image.
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Secrets of the Swordlords.
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I have to say that the first picture shows a katana if I've ever seen one, the second picture is unclear, and the third picture...well, okay, but I prefer the 'heavy sabre' look myself.
The First is Paizo Canon apparently.
I think the Third looks sort of like a Heavy Sabre...
That blade looks a lot wider than a katana and there's almost no curve to it. Personally, I think it just looks like a single-edged longsword.
It actually is around the same width. Though it does seem a bit less curvaceous doesn't it...
I do agree it seems a bit more like a Single-Edged Longsword. Which fits.
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That blade looks a lot wider than a katana and there's almost no curve to it. Personally, I think it just looks like a single-edged longsword.
I admit that it's a badly drawn katana! It is too wide, and it looks like it has a spine, although this could be a badly drawn boundary with the hardened edge (I'm getting old; I forget the proper name for that line), but that amount of curve is well within katana possibilities.
If you take a close look where the blade meets the hilt, that's a katana!
Actually the Tsuba-style (or the more common name of disk/plate) cross guard was common on a lot of weapons... Heck, battle lances had them.
NOTE: A Battle Lance is basically a heavy Spear designed to be held cradled in one arm. It isn't like the Conical Jousting/Sporting Lance you see in Movies.
We've been using the descriptive text of the ADS in our KM campaign.
Visualizing something like a longsword/heavy fencing saber cross that is only slightly curved.
Since it has to function as a longsword, it can't be curved enough to be a scimitar or saber.
As far as the elven curved goes, no need to look beyond Peter Jackson's LotR elven blades.
"Hadafang" I think it's called???
Randomly, that swordlords guide should maybe be updated with the actual aldori swordlord prestige class from paths of prestige... it gives an ADS version of dervish dance at level one, so a dip could make the dex version (or a magus) worthwhile...
More on topic, the ECB in Ultimate Equipment looks almost exactly like that photo of a scimitar, only longer especially in the hilt.
Hadhafang was a unique blade and is more of a Scimitar.
@The Golux: It is true that it should be updated.
& yes, yes it does.
Oops my bad.
I was thinking that the ECB was the one handed version.
And the elven thin blade was/is the rapier version
Since its the two handed blade, use the big two handed one in the movies.
I believe that there were several of those elven blades in the films, Hadhafang is just the "type" of weapon I was calling it.
Hadhafang was Arwen's Unique Blade...
The larger blade isn't named...
Ha ha, in my games I actually differentiate between weapons designed to look good, and the ugly purely functional weapons. For some the gloss and appearance matters, others it is all about the blade quality and ruggedness. Worth can vary (the really ceremonial weapons have a lot of gp added to their worth, but they won't have the best enchantments).
Pretty is great, but a setting has to work out what its weapons look like, and how functional everything is, and do many ceremonial weapons actually exist.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md1nup9d9e1r6fafro1_500.png
The left one is the Mage Hawke from Dragon Age 2, with his champion mage armor... and that is neither a sword nor a spear. It's a magic staff.
That mage armour is a bit ridiculous, going for the cool look, but its got holes all over it. The legs are the only portion of the body that are properly protected from multiple angles of attack. That sword-spear is a staff? Wow.
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Yep, Canon Hawk was a mage and used what was basically a sword-spear, but shot bolts from a range. Personally I have always view the canon version of the ADS as a finesse-able katana, because yeah the primer's drawing looks like a Katana and a saber had a kid. The elven court blade was piercing or slashing, but otherwise same stats as the elven curved blade, which I have always pictured as the two handed version a scimitar, in style and shape. But yeah, in a fantasy game your personal weapon can look like whatever as long as your discription doesn't make it into a completely different weapon, ex 6ft swort-sword.