Hello everyone! I am a questioning cis-gendered man not entirely sure where he falls on the sexual orientation spectrum (somewhere between straight and bi) and I have played RPGs since I was a kid.
Though rather recently introduced to Pathfinder I think it is one of my fav rpgs (of the rule heavy games anyway)and I have been discovering the Campaign setting as well, which delights me with its intricacy and numerous APs.
Anywho just wanted to say hello.
'ello.
Hello.
Hello, Yuugasa!
Welcome to the LGBT Gamer Community Thread! It's always good to see new folks around. :) I don't comment a lot in this thread, but I do browse it quite a bit, and I can say it's usually a very good source if you're looking for something positive, uplifting, or interesting on the LGBT front.
Glad to hear that you're liking Pathfinder's Campaign Setting of Golarion so far! It's been my setting of choice since Pathfinder came out. If you're looking for more information, the PathfinderWiki is a great source of lore.
Also glad that you are enjoying Pathfinder. Folks are generally quite friendly and helpful here on the forums. I hope you enjoy your stay, and Happy Gaming!
Welcome!
So this happened:
Washington State Bans Exclusions for Transgender Health Coverage
This is a pretty big deal to me.
Very happy for you and for anyone else this impacts. Great news!
Welcome, Yuugasa.
Hello new person.
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone. =)
Hello, Yuugasa!
Welcome to the LGBT Gamer Community Thread! It's always good to see new folks around. :) I don't comment a lot in this thread, but I do browse it quite a bit, and I can say it's usually a very good source if you're looking for something positive, uplifting, or interesting on the LGBT front.
Glad to hear that you're liking Pathfinder's Campaign Setting of Golarion so far! It's been my setting of choice since Pathfinder came out. If you're looking for more information, the PathfinderWiki is a great source of lore.
Also glad that you are enjoying Pathfinder. Folks are generally quite friendly and helpful here on the forums. I hope you enjoy your stay, and Happy Gaming!
Cool man, and thanks for the link, very useful.
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Happy Pride, everyone!
My wife actually completed one of the final steps in coming out yesterday, feeling it was an ideal time.
She posted about her bisexuality on facebook and told our whole social world. Previously she had only told the truth to our friends and our more understanding acquaintances. She was very nervous no one would like the status or leave positive comments but many people did.
It will be interesting to see how many members of my highly Catholic and often vocally anti-gay family responds. I am proud of my wife and if we get any strong negative responses I will burn those bridges to the ground. It may be the case that some will have a bad first response and then later come around if given the opportunity but I refuse to let my wife's honesty and courage in being vulnerable become preyed upon.
She has been willing to put herself out there in a way I likely never will and I really admire her for that.
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Burning bridges can be a problem. It may be better to let it be a while before you make a call on what really happened. People are far better long-term than shell-shocked. Even if they shouldn't.
Sometimes those are the worst sort of walls. You can't see them. Sometimes you're not even aware of them.Thankfully the walls are inside their head.From what I've seen, they put up psychological/societal walls to keep people from leaving.The Bible Belt still exists? What they do, put up walls to keep outsiders from coming in?Saying "Don't worry, they'll grow out of that straight phase." to obnoxious parents down here in the Bible Belt never gets old.It's just a fad. We'll be back to arranged marriages in no time.And then, everyone can be happy again, knowing their parents will take care of that whole deciding on who they should marry. This chaotic, unpredictable mess is simply intolerable.
Reminds me of a title from the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon: Prison Without Walls.
Burning bridges can be a problem. It may be better to let it be a while before you make a call on what really happened. People are far better long-term than shell-shocked. Even if they shouldn't.
Normally I would completely agree. In this case though standing up for my wife matters more to me than keeping relationships with family members I have known all my life. That's my priority.
Perhaps it's not really fair to them to not give them a chance to work it through but if any of them get mean and nasty about this, as they sometimes do about other things, they'll have proven themselves not worth our time and that's that.
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I understand that. Just be very clear on what you mean, and don't say too much. Far better to say "Okay, in that case we're leaving." or "I am sorry, but this discussion is over." if someone says something bad, so things can be solved more easily when tempers are less in uproar.
Now that more and more states are allowing gay marriage...we tend to see this as a good thing. But is it?
I saw this vid on Youtube. What you all think..when marriage between the heteros are all screwed up...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNtn6rwkzJE
*grabs a bowl of popcorn*
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I understand that. Just be very clear on what you mean, and don't say too much. Far better to say "Okay, in that case we're leaving." or "I am sorry, but this discussion is over." if someone says something bad, so things can be solved more easily when tempers are less in uproar.
While that is certainly the track I would take with more...healthy(?) people the situation here can be somewhat different.
For one while my family can often be charming, kind, and fun, capable of rational and reasonably intelligent discourse, when the nastier side of their behavior rears its head you are way better off meeting it blow for blow. They not only will respect you for it they will hilariously enough like you more too. It took me a long time to learn that but I have. If I have the desire to make up later I'm better off being mean in the now.
The other issue is that my wife suffers from PTSD from some pretty horrendous bullying when she was young. On the very rare occasion when someone in the adult world engages in even some thing like minor verbal bullying she freezes up and can't act, having me address it in a direct manner is a cathartic experience for her, she feels like someone is standing up for her and on her side, something which she rarely had before. She does so much to take care of me and my well being I feel the least I can do is speak when she can't.
Your advice is good, it's just that sometimes in life you have to figure out specifically what works best in a given situation instead of trying to rely on universal truisms that aren't always true.
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Bleh...apologies Sissyl, I didn't really mean to get into this. Thank you for your advice and helpful attitude. Feel free to offer me advice in the future as well, I will welcome it.
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Now that more and more states are allowing gay marriage...we tend to see this as a good thing. But is it?
I saw this vid on Youtube. What you all think..when marriage between the heteros are all screwed up...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNtn6rwkzJE
There are benefits to marriage as well as drawbacks. The choice of whether or not marriage is right for an individual is up to an individual. The important part we are working on is ensuring gay couples are as legally entitled to make that choice as straights.
I'm on vacation on Cape Cod right now, and I spent the day in Provincetown. Very fun town-- the energy was electric, even on a Monday night. Just about every building seemed to have a rainbow flag. I thought it was great to see so many same-sex couples walking hand-in-hand. Some fabulous-looking drag queens were handing out ads for their show tonight-- if we had time, that would have been fun!
I dropped into a game store on Commercial St (I forget the name). They didn't have a lot of RPG stuff (and no PF), but I did buy a giant-sized d20, numbered as a counter die.
Hope folks had a great Pride Day :)
Hope folks had a great Pride Day :)It was good, but when's Lust Day?
It's about fourteen days into February.
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Bleh...apologies Sissyl, I didn't really mean to get into this. Thank you for your advice and helpful attitude. Feel free to offer me advice in the future as well, I will welcome it.
No worries. =) As you describe it, it sounds like you have a good understanding of them, and your strategy is, oddly, the one least likely to burn bridges for you. Good luck with it, and don't forget what is important to you.
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No, Greed Day is late November.Nah that's Gluttony Day, how else can you explain all the chocolate and strawberries and chocolate dipped strawberries?It's about fourteen days into February.Hope folks had a great Pride Day :)It was good, but when's Lust Day?
With November 28th (in the US) being Sloth Day.
No, Greed Day is late November.Nah that's Gluttony Day, how else can you explain all the chocolate and strawberries and chocolate dipped strawberries?It's about fourteen days into February.Hope folks had a great Pride Day :)It was good, but when's Lust Day?
iz tru. My birthday is in late November, and I do like presents :3
With November 28th (in the US) being Sloth Day.No, Greed Day is late November.Nah that's Gluttony Day, how else can you explain all the chocolate and strawberries and chocolate dipped strawberries?It was good, but when's Lust Day?It's about fourteen days into February.
I too, am Mads about Sloth(s) Day. ;)
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iz tru. My birthday is in late November, and I do like presents :3No, Greed Day is late November.Nah that's Gluttony Day, how else can you explain all the chocolate and strawberries and chocolate dipped strawberries?It's about fourteen days into February.Hope folks had a great Pride Day :)It was good, but when's Lust Day?
Same :3
Federal Judge Strikes Down Kentucky Same-Sex Marriage Ban
Although "Judge Heyburn stayed his ruling, meaning no marriages for now."
Rulings in August might push it forward, though.
My friend's 12 year old just came out as gay on Sunday after the Pride parade. He has already faced hatred from the church that his family loves. She is going to leave that church and find another one. I'm thinking about going with them on Sunday if they are still going. I would be dressed up as Cindy. I don't believe in gods but I want to go to show my support for him. I want to show him that he isn't alone. I can handle the comments. No one should bully especially when the victim is a child.
Do you think this is a good idea?
I would recommend you to be careful. You may anger his parents who see what you do as encouraging it publicly - and they are still his parents that he has to live with for several years more. Even if this doesn't happen, it may put the spotlight on the kid in a way he might not like. I would suggest you discuss it with them first. You are brave for wanting to do this, though. Hat off to you.
One of my homelands has legalized gay marriage. Now I just have to sit back and patiently wait for Hell to freeze over. That's how I'll know that Florida has legalized gay marriage as well.It's always been weird to me that places as vibrant and liminal as South Florida and Louisiana can be or still are bigoted. I mean, the land itself says "there is no either/or."The farther you get from South Florida, the more conservative things get. Central Florida is in the middle with Orlando and Tampa being fairly progressive. Towards the boonies in Central Florida as well as the panhandle, and you get into the more conservative areas of Florida.
Of course, even in Ft. Lauderdale, which has a sizable LGBT community and in the whole, supports the community, my girlfriend and I still have to watch out for cops that'll assume she's a prostitute and stop us. Because apparently, a transwoman can't possibly have a loving relationship with a cis male, so clearly she's a hooker. *rolls eyes*
Wait, what?! Maybe you will also tell us that white (trans)woman can have loving relationship with Puerto Rican immigrant without him abusing her, taking advantage of her, or at the very least him being with her to get the green card?!
*shrug* What this world is coming to... People getting together as they want?! Relationships based on mutual respect, love and *gasp* partners' equality?! *rolls eyes*
Totally responding late. And Sorry, but totally killing your joke :p
Well, actually, I was born in New York. And raised in South Carolina. Also, since Puerto Rico is a territory, Puerto Ricans are American citizens. So technically, they can't be immigrants.
Sorry for killing your joke. I'll go back to the corner now :p Thanks for the support. Once I become a chef, I will travel to Drejkland (I assume you will have set up a benevolent dictatorship over where you live current) and make you food :D
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...Burger King?!?!?!?!?!
Yeah, that's a cool thing to do. And the wrappers may be right; "We are all the same inside." In that most of the insides of the people I know react to eating Burger King with the exact same extreme diarrhea. =)
Also, since Puerto Rico is a territory, Puerto Ricans are American citizens. So technically, they can't be immigrants.
How many Americans 'Muricans actually know that?
Sorry for killing your joke. I'll go back to the corner now :p Thanks for the support. Once I become a chef, I will travel to Drejkland (I assume you will have set up a benevolent dictatorship over where you live current) and make you food :D
Working on it... Wait, benevolent?! Oh, yes, yes, it will be benevolent! What is benevolent? Is that something to eat?
I would recommend you to be careful. You may anger his parents who see what you do as encouraging it publicly - and they are still his parents that he has to live with for several years more. Even if this doesn't happen, it may put the spotlight on the kid in a way he might not like. I would suggest you discuss it with them first. You are brave for wanting to do this, though. Hat off to you.
There would be no problem with his parents. They are very supportive of him and have been very supportive of me. I wouldn't do it without their permission anyway. He may not want the drama. He's going through enough as a 12 year old. This may be a fight he doesn't want right now. He's got another fight more important. His mom's ex boyfriend touched him and took pictures of him. This young man is dealing with a lot right now.
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Then just ask him what help he would want. Even if he doesn't want any help, he will know you are there if he needs it.
I would recommend you to be careful. You may anger his parents who see what you do as encouraging it publicly - and they are still his parents that he has to live with for several years more. Even if this doesn't happen, it may put the spotlight on the kid in a way he might not like. I would suggest you discuss it with them first. You are brave for wanting to do this, though. Hat off to you.There would be no problem with his parents. They are very supportive of him and have been very supportive of me. I wouldn't do it without their permission anyway. He may not want the drama. He's going through enough as a 12 year old. This may be a fight he doesn't want right now. He's got another fight more important. His mom's ex boyfriend touched him and took pictures of him. This young man is dealing with a lot right now.
damn. Thats a lot.
How manyAmericans'Muricans actually know that?
Quite a few, actually. But, they also think the Phillippines are still American territory.
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From the new D&D basic pdf.
Sex
You can play a male or female character without gaining
any special benefits or hindrances. Think about how
your character does or does not conform to the broader
culture's expectations of sex, gender, and sexual
behavior. For example, a male drow cleric defies the
traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could
be a reason for your character to leave that society and
come to the surface.You don't need to be confined to binary notions of
sex and gender. The elf god Corellon Larethian is often
seen as androgynous or hermaphroditic, for example,
and some elves in the multiverse are made in Corellon's
image. You could also play a female character who
presents herself as a man, a man who feels trapped in a
female body, or a bearded female dwarf who hates being
mistaken for a male. Likewise, your character's sexual
orientation is for you to decide.
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Some combination of reading that bit about possibly multi-gendered Corellon Larethian after watching 'Mama T+++' heckle the homophobes (perhaps combined with not yet having eaten and being light-headed) makes me think that I will forever now see Mama T#@+ in my head when I picture Corellon Larethian...
OMG. D&D is actively encouraging the playing of bearded female dwarves? What about the chiddren! <flails about>