Bladebound Kensai


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LazarX wrote:
But being a magus is more about swordplay... There's the magic side to it as well, and you take a big hit on the magic side for these archetypes, the loss in spellcasting, arcana, and some of the magus options are going to be a deal breaker for some.

The bladebound kensai has a very different play style than a baseline magus. The Bladebound Kensai is not about burst damage (though he can burst). He is sustained dpr combined with high survivability. Instead of focusing on burst damage, use most of your spells for buffs and mobility.

Some of the loss in spellcasting ability can be made up with pearls of power and judicious usage of scrolls. One thing to point out, a magus can usually use wizard scrolls to cast spells of a level higher than what he can personally memorize.


i decided to roll up a bladebound kensai for an upcoming evil housegame

Name: Seva-Raja
Race: Strix
(these are rolled stats thats how gm choose to do it)
STR: 16 +3
DEX: 13 +1
CON: 13 +1
INT: 15 +2
WIS:10 +0
CHA: 7 -2

Feats:Extra Arcane Pool, Weapon Focus(Scimitar), Alertness, Flyby Attack

gm wont allow dervish dancer
This is for an evil homebrew game it seems like it will be a fun character and flyby attack can hopefully offset low ac. There will also be naval combat and we will have a mermaid pc bard siren swimming along distracting people while i slash through humans left and right lol it starts on lvl 3 and might get to 5 or so

Grand Lodge

rrllmario wrote:


Race: Strix
(these are rolled stats thats how gm choose to do it)
STR: 16 +3
DEX: 13 +1
CON: 13 +1
INT: 15 +2
WIS:10 +0
CHA: 7 -2

I would ask for a reroll or a point buy. As it stands, you have a 20 pt spread, but your starting AC is going to be 13. All the odd numbers are crushing your stat block. That's going to be painful for a melee character. You have a combined +ability bonus of 5. Most optimized characters have between 7-9.


this is gonna be a game with mostly new beginners so its very low optimization but you are right i was just gonna have a shield wand and bracers maybe something more i dunno what our starting gold is gonna be


I put Bladebound and Kensai together and suddenly realized I'm now a shinigami from bleach. That is pretty much what you get. I think I might like Kensai more though out of the two.

Sczarni

rrllmario wrote:
this is gonna be a game with mostly new beginners so its very low optimization but you are right i was just gonna have a shield wand and bracers maybe something more i dunno what our starting gold is gonna be

It looks like you are starting at level 5 or 6 based on your feat choices. With a 13 AC, you are basically going to get auto-hit by monsters at that level. You won't get hit by regular attacks because you are flying, however Flyby Attack grants AoOs so you might get decimated by those.

A shield wand will help and so will the bracers, however they are just making up for a convoluted stat-block. If you can't get a reroll, then I would recommend swapping Str to Dex. Applying your first +stat at level 4 to Int, your level 8 +stat to Con and maxing Dex from there. This would give you an 18 in Dex and an 11 in Str. Pick up Weapon Finesse and the Agile weapon enchant and you are having Dex do all the work for you as well as raising your AC by 3 from Dex and 1 from Int (provided you are starting at level 5). A 17 AC is much better and a Headband of Intellect and a Belt of Dexterity will also bump you to 19 AC and is easily doable at 5th level wealth.


So i got a reroll on my character with a lot better statline

STR 17
DEX 14
CON 14
INT 16
WIS 10
CHA 9

it is a lvl 3 game i just put the feats that are bonus things
im changing my feats to dodge, mobility and flyby attack
my ac is 16 now so i think this is a lot better i have a wand of shield so my ac will be 24 when flyby attacking
we are gonna play in a few hours this isnt a campaign or anything so if i really hate the character i will just have to make another :)

Grand Lodge

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I need clarification regarding a human Bladebound Kensai Magus in PFS.

Kensai - "A kensai is proficient in simple weapons and in a single martial or exotic melee weapon of his choice."

Bladebound - "A black blade is always a one-handed slashing weapon, a rapier, or a sword cane."

a) Does the PC get the Aldori Dueling Sword exotic weapon proficiency for free at 1st level? Or would the player be required to spend a feat to get the weapon proficiency?

b) Does the PC only get the Black Blade benefits when using the Aldori Dueling sword 1-handed?

Thanks in advance for your help.


I... never even considered the Bleach shinigami as potential character inspiration for a bladebound kensai ...

How could I have not seen that??

Time to start working on a kenpachi-ish guy...


Jon Davis-GA wrote:

I need clarification regarding a human Bladebound Kensai Magus in PFS.

Kensai - "A kensai is proficient in simple weapons and in a single martial or exotic melee weapon of his choice."

Bladebound - "A black blade is always a one-handed slashing weapon, a rapier, or a sword cane."

a) Does the PC get the Aldori Dueling Sword exotic weapon proficiency for free at 1st level? Or would the player be required to spend a feat to get the weapon proficiency?

b) Does the PC only get the Black Blade benefits when using the Aldori Dueling sword 1-handed?

Thanks in advance for your help.

You would gain Exotic Weapon Proficiency with the Aldori Dueling Sword if you choose it as your Kensai weapon. It would also count as your Blackblade if you so chose, because it is a "one-handed slashing weapon". You can use the Black Blade with two hands without any penalty. Hopefully that takes care of your questions!


I'm doing one as a human with first lvl as a master of many forms and the rest in bladebound/kensai I'm using ascetic style combined with panther style, so my sword deals damage as if it where a monks unarmed strike (-4 lvls) in addition the armor issue gets fixed by that lvl of monk as I get to add my wis,dex, and int to my ac. Yes, I have less spells but I only usespells that move me around the field, and touch attacks without saves. I f***ing love this character!


I'm my experience it's an interesting and powerful combo. An old GM of mine grew so frustrated with the shenanigans that he banned Magus outright after heh.


Helaman wrote:

If you can get your UMD skill up? Wand of Mage Armour is great at 750gp! To help your UMD? Buy a masterwork tool (can be a focusing crystal or a book of common command words or whatever) at 50gp and its +2 circumstance bonus, and there is a cracked Ioun Stone that gives a bonus to +1 UMD as well. It think its either 200 or 400gp. Assuming you have 8 Cha and 6 skill ranks you have a +8. With the masterwork tool and the ioun stone its +11... Enough to make it odds on your attempt will work. It WILL clash with your silk robe but you use the highest value buff so its good for an extra +2 ac

to have good UMD, take the trait "Pragmatic activator" congratulations, UMD is now Int based.


So what do you guys think about a level dip in Wizard for this archetype combo?

My thought was that a bonded Amulet of Spell Cunning (when you can get it - and I suspect the extra slots are only going to be good for wizard spells) with some extra Pearl of Power enchantments as you're able to add them on would help ease the pain of the diminished spellcasting without costing *too* much, plus the Admixture school power is handy to have for nasty surprises.

The trade-off of delaying the higher level spells for a level in exchange for a bunch of extra level one slots would, I think, be more useful in roleplay/investigation heavy games like the one in which I'm currently playing one of there (about to hit level 2,probably won't end up taking the level dip until 4). Or if expecting some violence, having a few extra minutes with Long Arm and/or Enlarge person could come in handy.

Also, Mage Armor and access to Sorc/Wiz wands without needing the UMD check.

Side question for later levels - Enlarge Person and Long Arm are not specifically labelled Polymorph where Elemental Body is. Does that mean I can cast them on myself while in an elemental form?

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