Can an urban barbarian cast spells while raging?


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I am considering a Urban Barbarian/kensai multiclass for PFS but would like to spell strike while raging. Can I do this?


Pharothan wrote:

I am considering a Urban Barbarian/kensai multiclass for PFS but would like to spell strike while raging. Can I do this?

I am inclined to say no. The section on magic clearly states that you have to be able to concentrate in order to cast a spell. Furthermore, controlled rage, among other thing, applies to skills and states that it otherwise follows the rules for rage, which means you cannot use any ability that requires concentration, including the ability to cast spells.

I would cite pages, but I am on my iPad, my apologies on that.


From UC: "When using a controlled rage, an urban barbarian gains no bonus on Will saves, takes no penalties to AC, and can still use Intelligence-, Dexterity-, and Charisma-based skills. This ability otherwise follows the normal rules for rage."

So, no. Spellcasting folds into the "otherwise follows the normal rules for rage".

A Knowledge (arcana) check would be possible, but spellcasting isn't.


If it's for PFS and is unclear, assume no.

Although it does list exactly what is different from normal rage, and being able to cast spells isn't one of them.

Poolstrike should work though.


Cheapy wrote:

If it's for PFS and is unclear, assume no.

Although it does list exactly what is different from normal rage, and being able to cast spells isn't one of them.

Poolstrike should work though.

That is how I had read it also but figured it was worth checking. Thanks everyone!

Lantern Lodge

Would it work with bardic performance?

Liberty's Edge

BrotherBen wrote:
Would it work with bardic performance?

The anti-"patience and concentration" clause of rage is still in effect...but I note that nothing in Pathfinder barbdsong lists patience and concentration is being required ... so I'm inclined to say it would.

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