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Pathfinder rocks. It took what was already the best edition for D&D ever and made it even better.
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I was four years old when I started rolling dice and looking at the illustrations while my oldest brother and his friends played D&D.
It's part of life for me.
Like breathing.
I'm not gonna stop playing D&D just because some "people" say that D&D is some other game now and we call D&D "Pathfinder."
It's my favorite hobby.
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I started tabletops with the 3E begginer box in 6th grade. My dad handing me the thing (tossing really), grumbling about not liking it (he was an AD&D vet).
So in short, habit.
It was my first system, I've since played many more, but d20 is what I fall back to.
Specifically pathfinder and not 3.5 though? Paizo. The setting material is AMAZING. I'm continuously floored by how awesome the world of Golarion is. Also later on with books like spell compendium and the like... things got out of hand. Sure I could 'dm fiat' no, but those purchases were basically pointless then. So pathfinder was a high CL gentle repose on a system I know and love.
To go beyond the impossible.
To kick reason to the curb.
To finish inventing my no-castys-allowed party.
ok just a quick question why do you enjoy playing pathfinder what makes pathfinder do it for you
It's good.
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Because it rocks your f*cking socks off?
Mainly, because the game I grew up playing--Dungeons & Dragons--is no longer supported with new material, etc. and seems to have died about the same time as Mr. Gygax. Paizo is a faithful steward of that rich tradition, so it gets my money. Pathfinder is a natural progression of the game I know and love and has ironed out some of the rough spots, making it the best version of Dun...I mean, "the world's most famous roleplaying game," to date.
The folks at Paizo seem to *get* why I love the game. They get *what* I like about the game. Rise of the Runelords is the best example to date--that AP showed me that they like the same things I like--especially with their take on Goblins. Perfect.
They understand that video games will always be an imperfect and less satisfying substitute for a real tabletop game and they accept that. They do not attempt to emulate the video games that attempt to emulate the game. Down that path lies mediocrity. It would be like trying to write an opera inspired by "The Barber of Seville" but basing it on the Bugs Bunny version. If you want a more faithful adaptation, you have to seek inspiration from the original source, rather than some watered-down, simplified, version.
If D&D still existed and was still supported, then I'd have to make a choice. As it is, fortunately, Paizo does an excellent job carrying the torch.
It's an excuse to get together with the guys, have a few beers, crack some jokes, and have fun until one of us drinks a bit too much and then shares something emotional, after which we have to kill the awkwardness by talking about sports and firearms while pinching celebrity lips in our excess belly fat. I do a great excess belly fat Angelina Jolie (that is, if you can ignore the goatee).
I'm not a vet player, I have just 10 years in RPG world. I even started to play a bit late, that happened in college.
I started with D&D 3.0 and when 3.5 arrived all my group moved to this as well, we explored Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms and in time to time some other systems (Call of Cthulhu, Mutants & Masterminds, World of Darkness) but none of them catched us like D&D 3.5. At some point in 2006 my original group was dissolved and I looked for new players and started DMing.
When 4E arrived we gave a try to it but after about a year I dropped it and stopped to play mainly because that wasn't funny anymore (at least for me).
I was heard about Pathfinder a couple of times but never gave a try until january this year, at first glance I felt that was as good as D&D 3.5 was for me at some point. I looked for my old crew again and started to play. This is definitely the game I want to play right.
The reason: after trying a bunch of systems 3.x/Pathfinder is the kind of game that has the right balance in roleplaying, combat mechanics, and rules wich I feel comfortable with.
By the way I like in general the changes that Paizo crew made over 3.5 on skills, combat manauvers, and classes.
Because it's good. And we like it. Wait, am i supposed to be serious about this?
Anyways, i Like Pathfinder. My first D&D game was 3.5, i played some 4th but it didn't do it for me, so i found pathfinder and im sticking with it. It's fun, it has the customization and story options 4e doesn't and it improves on some of the things wrong with 3.5 (i can't tel you what, only that i can sneak attack more now)
A desire to support the kind of corporate culture exhibited at Paizo.
The extremely high quality flavor material.
The wide-ranging styles of adventures and their willingness to experiment - even though sometimes their deviation from the norm are not entirely well received.
I've been over this ground before. Let me explain. No, is too much; let me sum up:
3E was introduced through Dragon by showing me how the game was going to be improved. They showed me how they were going to make the game I loved to play even better.
3.5: More of the same.
4E: I didn't want a new edition of the game yet. This time, instead of being told how the game was going to be better, I was just told that it would be and that I'd have to wait and see, but boy won't it be great that you won't have to play with those half-baked rules from the current addition. The more I heard, the less I wanted it.
Pathfinder: I got to be directly involved with the development of the game. Rather than being told, I was given the opportunity to tell the developers what I thought about where they were going with the material. The game I was playing got even better. 'Nuff said.
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Pathfinder rocks. It took what was already the best edition for D&D ever and made it even better.
I totally agree. PF on its own is a great game but when you add in all the 3.5 work that been done and material to work with you can literally create any character you wish. Its unlimited. Pure Sweetness in my book.
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Because we choose to.
On contrary, I play Pathfinder because Paizo's Orbital Mind Control Laser tells me to.
Sometimes I get a glimpse of free will, but before I manage to do anything I hear a booming voice of Cosmo say *OBEY. SUBMIT* and I reach for my credit card again.
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Because we choose to.On contrary, I play Pathfinder because Paizo's Orbital Mind Control Laser tells me to.
Sometimes I get a glimpse of free will, but before I manage to do anything I hear a booming voice of Cosmo say *OBEY. SUBMIT* and I reach for my credit card again.
just what i was thinking :P
The same reason i do anything that i have 100% control over.
Fun and Enjoyment
I've earned it. My love of tabletop RPGs began in 1981 and had to weather the scorn of many a girlfriend's mom, not to mention a decade-plus of phony moral panic.
I love RPGs. I love everything about them. I love the act of creating them. I love sharing them. I am in love with the sense of discovery, the moments of sweet triumph, of sadness and loss, the exhilaration of sheer outrageous good luck. The hilarity and shock of a major fumble.
I really believe that roleplaying has potential to make you a better person. The camaraderie and teamwork certainly can. We are a community.
Why Pathfinder? D&D was my first RPG. I've played every previous version except the original little white brochure-type books. Pathfinder is the game that for me best honors the spirit and heritage of the game.
Why Play? Simple, for have fun!
And Pathfinder is a very good game!
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On contrary, I play Pathfinder because Paizo's Orbital Mind Control Laser tells me to.
Sometimes I get a glimpse of free will, but before I manage to do anything I hear a booming voice of Cosmo say *OBEY. SUBMIT* and I reach for my credit card again.
I KNEW my tinfoil hat was working! It tingles whenever the lasers hit it!
We game D&D, now for just over 25 years, usually once a week.
D&D -> revised D&D (aka AD&D 1e) -> a bit more revised D&D (aka AD&D 2e) -> more nicely revised D&D (aka 3.0) -> even more nicely revised D&D (aka 3.5) -> still some more nicely revised D&D (aka Pathfinder)
So I say it's addiction. For me Pathfinder is the latest incarnation of D&D and the best just as every other "true" revision of D&D was the best at it's respective time (I consider 4e not a revision of D&D but rather a different game - not a bad one, just a different one).
PLUS Paizo are all nice gals and guys that (gosh) listen to what their fans like PLUS you get the best 3rdPP for Pathfinder.
What else is there to say?
For me and my groupS, it's because it's a natural development over 3.5.
When we had to change 3.5 so much to become playable and stoped enjoying it, pathfinder came along and conquered us.
Golarion is one of the best Settings I've ever seen, I would dare to say that they will become greater and better then Forgotten Realms and Birthright even.
The rules are easy enough, options are great and feels less "cheaty" then 3.5. Specially when you buy books, cause they all make sense, not that Frostbite, Sandwhatever, Shipcrap that 3.5 started selling just and simply for bucks.
They are a great company, and they work hard.
The only problem I see is that rules bloat is starting to happen and a lot of things that come out today seem like a patch for poorly writen rules(Bestial Climber and derivates, Raging Vitality, among others)
But, I understand that to "Fix" those problems it would be necessary a second edition of Pathfinder, and they are not yet ready for that.
But in the back of my mind, I can feel that they are taking notes about those discrepancies and preparing for the inevitable day that Second Edition comes, and to be honest, I can't wait for it.
Second Edition Pathfinder will, FOR SURE, be the best roleplaying game ever writen, I have no doubt in my heart about that.
The open playtest drew me in, the interesting ideas and feeling of community got me interested, and the excellent material got me to stay.
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Specially when you buy books, cause they all make sense, not that Frostbite, Sandwhatever, Shipcrap that 3.5 started selling just and simply for bucks.
Not that I disagree that those books were mostly filler, but you might wanna check the names on the credit pages for those. I think many of them might be familiar.
I thought it was for the chicks.
Because it is my favourite version of D&D (3.5) with icing on top and more cake being issued regularly.
What is there not to like?
Yeah, I know full well who wrote them, that doesn't make it any better.
Paizo folks eveolved A LOT since then, and now they are more cooperative then they were before.
Meaning that they don't work like employees, now they all work like it's their company, and they want to make the best of it, not only for money, but for their customers. And that's why I love paizo so much.
Filler books is never a good idea, no matter how good the writer is, the theme simply does not help. And that's what happened with said books.
For me, the rules just click. It's the perfect game for me and my group. When 4e was released we switched over but I couldn't game after a session or two, it honestly bored me to tears and the game suffered as a result. So for the next two years I explored the wide range of RPGs like Eclipse Phase, Savage Worlds, Qin, Witch Hunter the Invisible World, Anima Beyond Fantasy, nWoD and many more. It was my first time trying games not D&D and it opened my eyes to some great games. However, I've tried a few sessions with those games and couldn't see myself going for the long run, or my initial excitement fades and I don't have the motivation to get a game going in the first place. I know I'll revisit some of them (Eclipse Phase and Witch Hunter) because they are phenomenal games, but as of now, Pathfinder is my game of choice.
I've been keeping my eye on Pathfinder as well during that time and I thought to myself, "you know, Pathfinder looks good, but I have my 3.5 books already along with my houserules." But I couldn't get back into 3.5. My houserules were reaching 30 pages in length (10 point font no double space btw) and I noticed that many of my housrules are similar to those in Pathfinder. So, I threw out the "notebook" of rules and switched to Pathfinder. It's much easier to have a hardcover book and start fresh than a few scraps of paper to mend my 3.5 games. Plus it's new and shiny. :D Besides, Pathfinder is actively supported with awesome material and I love the APs since I don't have the free time I use to have back in college to create elaborate adventures.
I'm been running Pathfinder ever since and I think I'm here to stay. The game just clicks for me and I love DMing it. Not only that, my houserules are down to half a page. Not bad, Pathfinder, not bad at all. ;)
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Because thats just how we role.
Because it rocks your f*cking socks off?
If D&D still existed and was still supported, then I'd have to make a choice. As it is, fortunately, Paizo does an excellent job carrying the torch.
...if D&D still existed?
What?
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I play because once upon a time, the most innocuous sounding group I could find on the internet who was accepting random strangers was starting a campaign set in "Sandpoint".
3 years later... I play because I love the people I work with so much that I spend my spare time in the office conference room playing Pathfinder with them.
Pathfinder rocks. It took what was already the best edition for D&D ever and made it even better.
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What he said.
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